JohnfromUK Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 (edited) I hear Sue Gray has resigned (but has another job elsewhere in Gov't, but I'm guessing not based in No 10). Edited October 6 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 Short news story here,,,,, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdenx2p32jxo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 Just moved to a different trough ...................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 Hello, Was she pushed out of number 10 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 she will still be pulling strings..........she is a traitorus wretched woman.........she as a very senior civil servant was supposed to work for the betterment of all the people ....but whilst in office it has been clearly shown she was very close to the labour leadership all along.... we havnt heard the last of her... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 A new over paid none job created especially for her!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 11 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: A new over paid none job created especially for her!! Moved to try and avoid talk about her position, so they just move her to another position she can influence … what difference does that make? Madness. Another Labour mess 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 10 minutes ago, ditchman said: as a very senior civil servant was supposed to work for the betterment of all the people The only betterment Sue Gray ever worked for was Sue Gray. Once again, Starmer's weakness and ineptitude means she gets a pointless job at a stonking salary because she has the power to hurt him badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 MARVELLOUS News............................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 She is a funny one. It's hard to tell how much influence she actually wields. She certainly stuffed Boris like a turkey over the Party gate enquiry. Not exactly impartial was she? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 Resigns on a Sunday?? very odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 9 hours ago, ditchman said: she as a very senior civil servant was supposed to work for the betterment of all the people .... None of the civil servants do. In it for themselves knowing that there is a nice ring fenced pension waiting for them at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Too good to loose. Surprised labour could afford her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Quote Too good to loose. Surprised labour could afford her. oowee - cheered me up no end. I have no doubt she will be in the background doing whatever she does. Civil Servants sign up to be politically impartial. Either she can't read or is one slice short of a full loaf. Hardly served the country when the Tories were in, but went running to Labour. A dreadful individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 7 Author Report Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, Gordon R said: I have no doubt she will be in the background doing whatever she does. I think you are right - and will she still be drawing her £170K salary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 As much as oowee rates the uncharismatic Gray, her ex-colleagues appear not to be so enamoured - "greedy with a tin ear". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 7 Author Report Share Posted October 7 8 minutes ago, Gordon R said: As much as oowee rates the uncharismatic Gray, her ex-colleagues appear not to be so enamoured - "greedy with a tin ear". Indeed - and what Boris Johnson thought he was doing appointing someone clearly a Labour (then in opposition) supporter/sympathiser, the mother of a Labour candidate (now Labour MP) as the 'unbiased investigator' for the Partygate affair. I'm afraid that just shows how much Boris knew or cared about his staff and their motives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 3 hours ago, oowee said: Too good to loose. Surprised labour could afford her. So you’ve got senior civil servants briefing against their old colleague within (checks notes) 100 days of her starting. Poacher turned game keeper disliked by poachers, how unexpected. She was always going to be an absolute liability because of who she was; the fact Starmer chose to hire her into the chief of staff role just further demonstrates, IMO, his complete inability to empathise or provide leadership. Those who thought her Partygate was a massive, biased waste of time and resources asking the wrong questions, really had their opinions confirmed when she jumped ship from that sham straight into the Labour machine, and thence no 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 17 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said: So you’ve got senior civil servants briefing against their old colleague within (checks notes) 100 days of her starting. Poacher turned game keeper disliked by poachers, how unexpected. She was always going to be an absolute liability because of who she was; the fact Starmer chose to hire her into the chief of staff role just further demonstrates, IMO, his complete inability to empathise or provide leadership. Those who thought her Partygate was a massive, biased waste of time and resources asking the wrong questions, really had their opinions confirmed when she jumped ship from that sham straight into the Labour machine, and thence no 10. 🤣 liability. Far from it. The head start on delivery proves otherwise despite what is in the press. Still hard at work. What I can't get my head around is why she is working for £170k. There must be something in the small print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 oowee - you clearly see something which we do not, neither do her Labour party colleagues. What do her ex-Civil Service colleagues think of the way she has behaved? Hardly the professional, impartial Civil Servant. She has brought disgrace upon her former profession. Why do you think she should be worth in excess of £170k? What is her talent? Don't say she gets things done, because she clearly didn't when in the Civil Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 3 minutes ago, Gordon R said: oowee - you clearly see something which we do not, neither do her Labour party colleagues. What do her ex-Civil Service colleagues think of the way she has behaved? Hardly the professional, impartial Civil Servant. She has brought disgrace upon her former profession. Why do you think she should be worth in excess of £170k? What is her talent? Don't say she gets things done, because she clearly didn't when in the Civil Service. Clearly the only real "talent" she has is annoying people................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Clearly. Most any senior Cs with previous cabinet access will be earning min of £500k in consultancy. Plc placements plus chair and board roles likely to double that. Skills, knowledge and process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 If she was so good, why did she stay in the Civil Service for so long? It must have been her loyalty to colleagues and her tremendous dedication to the Civil Service ethos of service. It beats me why outside companies would pay good money to any former Civil Servant with no record of success. Perhaps someone could list her achievements. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 7 Author Report Share Posted October 7 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Perhaps someone could list her achievements. Well - lets see. She seems to have been quite good at alienating (at least quite a number of) her colleagues .......... She managed to organise a No 10 pass for the (now under enquiries by House of Lords standards committee) Lord Waheed Alli. She persuaded Starmer to part with £170K in taxpayers cash (though since he likes spending other peoples money, that may not have been hard) - some obviously feel that she worked for £170K as a bit of a favour as she could have got much more elsewhere, so maybe it wasn't an achievement? She contributed in no small way to publicising Boris's (largely self inflicted) Partygate shambles. Edited October 7 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 If she is so damned good why isn't she working for lots more money in the real world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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