chrisjpainter Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Been looking for a new type of pellet and came across H&N Baracuda Power Copper Coat .177. has anyone used copper pellets? and if so is it worth having some? what advantages do you get with the copper coatings? many thanks! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 i heard from somewhere they left crud in the barrel, could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 When I work with copper at work( machinist )it's sticks to everything. I'd stick to lead in my air rifle. I it was good everyone would be using them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLH1966 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) Been looking for a new type of pellet and came across H&N Baracuda Power Copper Coat .177. has anyone used copper pellets? and if so is it worth having some? what advantages do you get with the copper coatings? many thanks! Chris No, they're **** - not very good Edited January 11, 2012 by PLH1966 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 They are a rubbish gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durbsguy Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Even though copper is still soft I would leave the gimmicky pellets alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Never seen them and never used them, but I struggle to understand what function they are intended to perform in a conventional 12ft lb rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 it think the idea is for a bit of a harder pellet thus a heavier impact! although why H&N are making them if, going by these comments, they're so unpopular i have no idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Never seen them and never used them, but I struggle to understand what function they are intended to perform in a conventional 12ft lb rifle? The function is to sell more pellets. OP, avoid gimmicks, buy a quality roundhead pellet and learn how to use it. Something like a JSB Exact, Air Arms Field, Defiant or Exterminator will be a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 yeah that's what i have been using; was just intrigued to see them for sale! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid basher Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 what the hell would you wonna use copper cotted pellets for 1 thayed cost a small fortune 2 thayed blow every were like those tin ones 3 vermin would see them comeing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 copper is used on bullets purely to stop them disintegrating after they leave the barrel This is just someones marketing idea to make airgun pellets sound like real bullets!!! Pointless!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 They are worth their weight in gold-but only if you are a Copper salesman-or your Airgun pumps out slugs at three times the speed of sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Ditto to all of the above........ No point on an air rifle pellet. Copper coatings are used in larger caliber bullets and they leave a copper residue on the inside of the barrel which will build up and if not cleaned thoroughly with proper solvents/brushes etc can lead to premature corrosion of your barrel, as moisture can get underneath the copper coating. Stick to lead and you wont go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 01 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I still have some samples of these that were sent to our club by H&N. Not one person in the club was prepared to put them through their barrel ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 They are somewhat a gimmick yes. I used a tin of their pointed ones years ago and it made no difference to performance in the field one bit. They also did not damage the barrel and won't. Copper is used and copper based gilding metal is used once a bullet is starting to aproach 2000fps. Soft lead does not like going over 1200fps, lube is certainly needed. Next lead is mixed with other metals to make a harder alloy, next a copper gas check is added to the lead base. Paper patching is another way to propel lead at high speed. It is not so much the speed that becomes a problem for lead but the pressure behind it. With high speed comes high pressure, pressure gained through combustion. It is the heat from combustion cutting up the sides of the bullet that melts bullet material and coats the barrel ruining accuracy of the barrel hence the copper type jacket material of bullets. It takes more heat but will still leave some deposits. An airgun barrel is like any other barrel and lead deposits will be left behind. Moisture can still get under it, this rule does not just apply to copper coated/jacketed bullets/pellets. If copper coated pellets are your thing then good for you, it's not a problem U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I posted this a few weeks ago same applies, but i had forgot about about the copper pointed ones,RWS i think also there were some that had steel bearing in the head. Over the 38 years (thats a long time ) i have been shooting air rifles i have seen umpteen new super do all space age tech gizmo's pellets that say they are better than anything thats been around, sussex sabot ox nato promethious titan black and all shapes, pointed-flat-hollow pointed-wad cutters and God knows many others that have been and gone. One old favorate "Eley wasp" Simple-Lead-Domed-pellet,the one that ALL other were compared to. Just check out the International Field Target boys and see what they use. i can bet you nearly 100% use simaler to AA field,Accupell,Premiure Stick to whatthe pro's use and you wont go far wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexterboyz Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 copper pellets are a load of carp!! stick to what is tried, tested and has stood the test of time! all copper pellets are good for is the person who wants to tell all his mates that his air rifle can shoot through both sides of a metal bin!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutler Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 I tried some Air Boss Barracuda copper plated 21gr pellets in my high end PCP guns, and in the Uragan they are the most accurate of all the pellets I have tried. In my Red Wolf HP they are also good, just a hair behind the H&N Barracuda Match 21grainers. Still have to try them in my FX Crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 is there a difference between "copper coated"....and "copper plated ".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 There is probably a difference in the pellets from 8 years ago when the thread was started 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 On 27/08/2020 at 23:00, Cutler said: I tried some Air Boss Barracuda copper plated 21gr pellets in my high end PCP guns, and in the Uragan they are the most accurate of all the pellets I have tried. In my Red Wolf HP they are also good, just a hair behind the H&N Barracuda Match 21grainers. Still have to try them in my FX Crown. Air rifle pellets don't go fast enough to justify copper coating or requiring copper as main material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted August 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 5 hours ago, figgy said: There is probably a difference in the pellets from 8 years ago when the thread was started 😀 I have no memory of this thread - and I started it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 That's an age thing, now what was I doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) Lead pellets leave residues / streaks in the barrels too and requires cleaning. A friend of mine (member at our club) was an international air rifle shot and he used to be seen swabbing out his barrel with Hoppes on a regular basis, Copper could be worse Edited August 30, 2020 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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