paddymax123 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Hi guys I have sent of my fac and looking to find out opinions on what is the best .22 rifle on sale today. I am looking to get something brand new rifle with a thumb hole stock preferably, bolt action not semi auto. I have been looking at some rifles like the browning T bolt or the CZ 455th stealth. Any advice/ comments are welcome Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I guess it depends on what the interpretation of "the best" is. I had a cz455 thumbhole from new. The accuracy was pretty lousy. The Varmint barrel, too heavy. Great off a bipod, but too un wieldy at most other times. The crowning was a bit rural and so I thought perhaps that's what you get for the cheaper end of the market. I very nearly went completely the other end of the market, for an Anschutz. However, inspired by others, I bought a cz452 silhouette. The rifle is light, and so dam accurate its extraordinary. I was using it alongside the HMR a week or two back on paper. The groups between the two rifles were exactly the same out to 120 yards, and at 145 yards, it was whacking an old tin can every shot. So that's the best .22 for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanieboy Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Tend to agree - I don't know why folk bother with those heavy barrels in the field. I have 452's in .22 and HMR, both American, with the lighter barrels. Nice and light and deadly accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickB65 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 CZ 452 and you will not go wrong - I also found the varmint barrel a tad heavy but love the gun..... brand new or second hand and you will find yourself a good gun if looked after. Mine cost £250 second hand and I love it... - stripped the stock down and fitted a new trigger spring and it is one lovely gun to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The Anschutz 1417 thumbhole is a lovely .22 IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningDJC Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Had my cz silhouette for years, cant go wrong with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipers eye Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 + 1 for the cz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Got two Cz 455the one had trouble with the crown had barrel replaced by gun shop brilliant got nv on one and day scope on the other very accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinybum Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 i have a Sako Finfire, owned for 20 years, just love it and it has just been brought back into production, buy the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) The Anschutz 1417 thumbhole is a lovely .22 IMO. +1 Edited October 14, 2014 by telf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The Anschutz 1417 thumbhole is a lovely .22 IMO. +2, I have had a few and the 1417 is without a doubt the best I have ever had. On saying that you will pay a lot more for it than you would CZ 452/455. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisondan Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 My M&P 15-22 is good fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 CZ 455 American - I have one and its just fine, you won't go far wrong with a CZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat g Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 i have a Sako Finfire, owned for 20 years, just love it and it has just been brought back into production, buy the best +1 They may be very little difference in accuracy between a CZ and a Finfire but the quality of the Sako is far superior. My finfire is a keeper and a pleasure to use. Lovely rifle ATB, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPJA Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The Anschutz 1417 thumbhole is a lovely .22 IMO. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) The Anschutz 1417 thumbhole is a lovely .22 IMO. I absolutely agree RFB. but at close on £500 more than the silhouette it would be hard for me to justify the extra, and the accuracy I have through mine would be difficult to improve on. However, money no object and if the accuracy was equal, I would probably have the Annie. Edited October 15, 2014 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Not wanting to hijack this thread but what are the advantages of thumbhole stock? I'm not a fan of them but for no good reason other than I don't really like the look of them, but I wasn't sure about synthetic stocks until I used one ( my .17 has a synthetic stock and i love it plus I've been sort of looking at semi auto shotguns with synthetic stocks) . I've only ever used an air rifle with a thumbhole and I could not see any advantage, my old rifle with a pistol grip stock was just as accurate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 for me personally,the high comb/cheekpiece,i struggled with a normal stock as my eye wasnt lined up correctly with the scope,plus your hand seems to wrap around the grip perfectly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxo Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I guess it depends on what the interpretation of "the best" is. I had a cz455 thumbhole from new. The accuracy was pretty lousy. The Varmint barrel, too heavy. Great off a bipod, but too un wieldy at most other times. The crowning was a bit rural and so I thought perhaps that's what you get for the cheaper end of the market. I very nearly went completely the other end of the market, for an Anschutz. However, inspired by others, I bought a cz452 silhouette. The rifle is light, and so dam accurate its extraordinary. I was using it alongside the HMR a week or two back on paper. The groups between the two rifles were exactly the same out to 120 yards, and at 145 yards, it was whacking an old tin can every shot. So that's the best .22 for me I too am waiting after the first visit and assuming all goes well will probably be looking seriously at a CZ .22lr. Does your comments above relate to .22lr against the .17hmr Turbo? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I too am waiting after the first visit and assuming all goes well will probably be looking seriously at a CZ .22lr. Does your comments above relate to .22lr against the .17hmr Turbo? Paul Not sure what you mean Paul? But was just giving my view on the "best" 22lr. I personally think the CZ452 is a better made rifle than the CZ455. The CZ455 looks the part with its thumbhole stock. But what counts at the end of the day with any make is the accuracy. The question of, "Do I go for 22lr or HMR?" comes up time and time again, if that's what your are asking. Its down to the individuals choice and shooting situations. All I can say really is, as most of my rimfire shooting is 100 yards and under, the 22lr does that in style, is a 1/3 the price to feed and is stupidly quiet. The HMR is a great tool too, but only comes into its own over the .22 at 100+ yards and that returns much less opportunities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 These sort of threads go round and round, what is best? For general field work you will never need more than a CZ, it will give you accuracy reliability and repeatability, spend double on another rifle and you will not improve on any of that. If you want to spend more then fine, but don't expect any better results in the field! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodlander Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I have the 452 silhouette,it's light,accurate and pretty cheap secondhand and great for what I use it for. Would love a Weihrauch or an Anchutz,but wouldnt want it dragged through the mud. Depends what you want it for,but don't suppose either would be much more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxo Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Not sure what you mean Paul? But was just giving my view on the "best" 22lr. I personally think the CZ452 is a better made rifle than the CZ455. The CZ455 looks the part with its thumbhole stock. But what counts at the end of the day with any make is the accuracy. The question of, "Do I go for 22lr or HMR?" comes up time and time again, if that's what your are asking. Its down to the individuals choice and shooting situations. All I can say really is, as most of my rimfire shooting is 100 yards and under, the 22lr does that in style, is a 1/3 the price to feed and is stupidly quiet. The HMR is a great tool too, but only comes into its own over the .22 at 100+ yards and that returns much less opportunities. No turbo. Just never heard anyone say that .22lr is as accurate as .17hmr out to that sort of distance and wondered if you were talking about wmr. If I can find a .22lr that's that accurate I'll be over the moon. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 i have 2 anschutz 1417s,one daytime,one nightvision,both extremely accurate as long as i do my bit,with a .22 you need to learn your holdover points on your scope,and in the right conditions with the right ammo,120 yds is do-able,but .22 ammo is very fickle,there are plenty of threads on here about dodgy .22 ammo,but on saying that i wouldnt be without mine have you thought about a mach2,i have one now after selling my hmrs,and although alot of people rubbish the calibre,it does everything the hmr does but the ammo is half the price and double the price of .22,cracking little calibre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 No turbo. Just never heard anyone say that .22lr is as accurate as .17hmr out to that sort of distance and wondered if you were talking about wmr. If I can find a .22lr that's that accurate I'll be over the moon. Paul 100+ yards with .22 isnt difficult is it?, last weekend I was managing 10p groups at 120 yards with my trusty old CZ511 (the best .22 semi auto ever made ) and I'm not a particularly good shot! and that was with it zerod at 60 with a gusty wind causing trouble.... theres a lot to be said for learning your ranges and mill dots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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