Patrick1964 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) I'm in need of a vehicle for shooting / dog carrying / tip duties and have a maximum budget of around £6500. If I spend anything like this much then it's got to be pretty much depreciation free, so at this end of the budget I'm thinking a Defender 90 TDi. However, I could bank most of the money and spend £1500 on something else (L200 ?). I have a daily driver so this is just a weekend truck. The vehicle will do about 3000 miles a year and needs to be reliable and off road capable (more so than an X-Trail) What would you buy ? but just as important is why you would recommend them over the other options please. Edited March 27, 2015 by Patrick1964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Shogun Sport. Moderately easy to work on, and they tend to be relatively lightly used. We picked up a 2007/07 plate one last September, 60k miles on the clock, all the invoices, in immaculate condition, for £6750. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose man Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Ive had in my time most of the 4x4 trucks , double cabs landys etc .. The most reliable , go anywhere , carry anything , tow anything one by far is the Toyota hilux .I was trying to buy a single cab hilux truck this week just for the shoot as a work horse , something the keepers will use and very much abuse on the estate ..theres a 1986 single cab on ebay , nearly 30years old that they want 2500 for .I found one 2004 that cost £3200 , with 120000 miles on , drives superb etc . £6500 will get you a tidy double cab that wont loose you much over a few years if you look after it ...Landrovers may do the job if your only using it weekends that will give the mechanics all week to repair it ready for the following weekend ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Where pickups win is road tax if you are buying a newer model. Your budget would get a new shape l200 will do 30 plus mpg and comfortable enough to use whenever you want. Pretty reasonable off road, great for lamping and dogs wise well they aren't in with you which when wet and smelly is a huge bonus. Otherwise the landrover will be a project and if you use it maintenance will make up for the lack of depreciation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxon T Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I may have been lucky but I had a 300 tdi defender for around 4 years and nothing went wrong with it and I even made some money on it. I found the most annoying thing was constantly being slightly nervous that some low life would pinch it. If I could outright afford it I think i would probably always have a defender as a second car just because no other cars make you feel quite the same. Having said that i would have hated the thing if it had broken down all the time. Lots of research, spending the right money on one and then pot luck seem to be required. I can't think of another car of the type you're looking for that are quite so depreciation resistant and don't lose massive value if you bump them a bit. Happy shopping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I have a 1986 ex military 90. I've had her for eight years. She is still worth almost what I paid for her. She's never let me down. Do about the same mileage you are going to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney 66 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Defender, same reason low depreciation, buy a good one to start with and you wont go far wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 defender td5 + good offroad +28-31 mpg + holds value(could be investment as stop production soon) + no plastic panels. + parts cost and availability good. - more of tractor than a road vehicle - yes maint issues but if you service it less so ,and at only 3000mls per year if you get a genuine vehicle should be good to go. jap 4x4 better on road more comfort all good but they do still require maint and spares don't believe the folk who say they never have problems with them trust me they do .worked in the motor trade for more years than I like to remember.all only my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkAYA Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I reckon you should buy a grand vitara and spend the rest on a nice new gun especially if your only going to use it at weekends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I have a 1986 ex military 90. I've had her for eight years. She is still worth almost what I paid for her. She's never let me down. Do about the same mileage you are going to. mines an 1988 county...had it for 9 years has never failed to start and has never broken down................landrovers are ok ....you just need to maintain them...oil water and power wash once a month..........and dont thrash them like a car cause they are not a car...they are a tool....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 1998 Defender 90 300 TDI diesel. No computer to screw the electrics up. Tuff as old boots. Wash em out with a hose pipe inside and out if you don't get the posh carpeted version. Mines the Wolf XD which is over your budget, but plenty non military about. Drive with a smile on your face. Also it has air conditioning, you just open the front flaps. In NATO green its a mobile hide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) what these LR owners arent telling you is that landrovers are bloody horrible to drive! I wanted one until a mate lent me his for a week, I soon went off the idea after that and got a hilux. Edited March 28, 2015 by thepasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 probably always have a defender as a second car just because no other cars make you feel quite the same. Cold, wet, uncomfortable, cramp? You're right, no other car has made me feel like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scraggoak Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Why have you ruled out the xtrail, the diesel is good on fuel, very reliable, and with good offroad tyres goes anywhere my l200 could, but if you a looking for a good truck my friend has an o6 l200 warrior with 36000miles on the clock he is thinking of selling, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) what these LR owners arent telling you is that landrovers are bloody horrible to drive! I wanted one until a mate lent me his for a week, I soon went off the idea after that and got a hilux. pasty if you read my post I do make the point that they are not as comfortable and are tractor like . wondered when it would turn into hate LR thread It's not LR fault that you ain't got the pluck to drive one Hilux are good Edited March 28, 2015 by scutt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 pasty if you read my post I do make the point that they are not as comfortable and are tractor like . wondered when it would turn into hate LR thread It's not LR fault that you ain't got the pluck to drive one Hilux are good My tractor is more comfortable than a defender of the same age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 300 tdi d1 , spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 My Defender is very comfortable to drive. Maybe I am just the right shape and height to fit it properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Toyota hilux is the only sensible choice.got to be the most reliable truck on the market.i have owned all the models through the years never had a problem with any of them.i change them once they get to around 250k.i have owned land rovers discovery's and range rovers.but now I never consider anything other than Toyota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 My tractor is more comfortable than a defender of the same age probably faster too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick1964 Posted March 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Thanks all, I've bought a 96 Hilux for buttons. Having driven round our shoot in my X-trail today I'm convinced I've done the right thing. I know a Defender would be "cool" but I'll bank the difference or spend it on shooting and at least I can laugh when I bend the Hilux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) Defender 90. I have a 22 year old 200 TDi, owned for it 19 years and done almost 100,000 miles. Upsides : Been 100% reliable other than a clutch, some suspension rubbers, starter and indicator flasher, which isn't bad for that age. No welding, 100% MoT passes. Larger Allard intercooler and tweaked injection pump gives 27 mpg average, 30 mpg on a run and 70 mph cruise on 7.50 tyres. No depreciation to speak of. Just about comfortable if you are not too tall or big. Unbeatable off road. Freedom from troublesome electronics like ABS etc. Downsides : Dreaded Lucas electrics and noisy - only partly solved by extensive soundproofing. Road handling needs some care by modern standards. Heating, wipers etc very basic indeed. Water always leaks in. Edited March 29, 2015 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 similar to my 21 year old hilux but everything on it is still original bar an anti roll bar drop link I snapped when doing some paris to dakar type driving, yet its very comfortable, doesnt leak. isnt noisey, handles fine, is warm and even cool in the summer with the AC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick1964 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Drove the Surf back from Bradford to Denbigh last night in torrential rain and very high winds, not ideal...home safely and initial impressions are good. Car drove well, will have a good look round today and see if it needs anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Drove the Surf back from Bradford to Denbigh last night in torrential rain and very high winds, not ideal...home safely and initial impressions are good. Car drove well, will have a good look round today and see if it needs anything. Probably more diesel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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