Andra Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Only had the sxs I recently bought out a few times for short spells and had some difficulty shooting second birds. Took the time today to figure that out and now know the safety returns to safe after firing the first barrel, the same thing happens whatever barrel fired first R or L, this does not seem right? Also I am finding that my middle finger takes a bashing from the trigger guard when firing the front trigger, from the recoil (using 29grm 6's). If I shoot back trigger this does not happen, do I need to have the front trigger pull adjusted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 The safety catch should not return on firing either trigger, only when the gun is broken. If the stock is too short, this could be why you are getting a bruised finger. Hope this helps, but I`m sure others better informed than me will elucidate further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 What he said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andra Posted December 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) The safety catch should not return on firing either trigger, only when the gun is broken. If the stock is too short, this could be why you are getting a bruised finger. Hope this helps, but I`m sure others better informed than me will elucidate further. Thanks Boggy hopefully someone can advise on what the problem is likely to be hopefully nothing too serious. I dont think it is the stock being to short tbh it seems more like distance to front trigger with a comfortable grip on the stock kind of thing thats why I thought maybe the trigger could be adjusted back. I may be wrong though, but it is 100% fine when I shoot from the back trigger Edited December 12, 2015 by Andra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dob Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Sounds like front trigger needs adjusting . It should not be making it self safe after every shot, needs a trip to a gunsmith me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 You used to be able to get a little rubber cushion that fitted on the trigger guard but I'm not sure if they are still available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 You can still get rubber pad for trigger guard. From bushwear or on eBay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Hi The stocks to short and the safety is broken strongly advise you get it looked at by a pro Fit is critical in a straight hand stock especially with double triggers All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Are u sure u're not unconcously leaving ur thumb on top where the safety is? And either applying it sub concouisly or the recoil is putting it back on. I mind when i was a lot youner started doing that for some reason, eventually the top lever split my thimb nail in 2 one day, still mind it being sore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katzenjammer Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Has your gun got a straight English stock or is it a pistol gripped stock? I gave up on the former as I found with increased age and arthritis in my hand I could no longer grip the straight English stock tightly enough and thus bashed my fingers on recoil. A pistol grip stock on a Baikal SBS cured that problem for me. You could try an even lighter load. I found Hull Imperials in 28gr No. 6 very sweet to shoot but have also shot 24gr through it to lesser recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Only had the sxs I recently bought out a few times for short spells and had some difficulty shooting second birds. Took the time today to figure that out and now know the safety returns to safe after firing the first barrel, the same thing happens whatever barrel fired first R or L, this does not seem right? Also I am finding that my middle finger takes a bashing from the trigger guard when firing the front trigger, from the recoil (using 29grm 6's). If I shoot back trigger this does not happen, do I need to have the front trigger pull adjusted? How's ur middle finger getting battered?? should it not be behind the trigger guard. Possibly it is a fit issue never really heard of it before, but i'm about the only person i know that shoots a SxS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 when firing the front trigger make sure you are only using the pad of your finger, I watched my friend bash his fingers to bits before informing him that he was almost wrapping his finger around the front trigger. this was causing his middle finger to be too close to trigger guard and the recoil bashed him every time. once he corrected his trigger finger he had no more problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 My guess is that the stock is too short. A very rough guide is that with the gun mounted normally, you should be able to get at least 3 fingers between the tip of your nose and your right thumb, but this is only a very rough guide. Also bear in mind that s/s are light and with heavier loads, recoil can cause this to happen. NEVER fire with your thumb on the safety. As mentioned above, a split thumb from the opening lever is VERY painful. I have also done that. Personally I like a straight stock and double triggers - even on an o/u, but the correct fit does seem a little more difficult to achieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Thier is a flat spring that retains tension on the safety. It's very common for it to need a light tweak if the gun re- engages under recoil Easy peasy fix that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 As has already been said, make sure you are only using the pad of your finger on the trigger, check your thumb is NOT on the top strap, but wrapped over the top of the grip. If you look at the trigger set up on a double trigger S x S, the rear trigger should be set to the right (or left) of centre, using only the pad of your trigger finger, allows a natural flow through from the front to rear trigger without any grip alteration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny thomas Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Are u sure u're not unconcously leaving ur thumb on top where the safety is? And either applying it sub concouisly or the recoil is putting it back on. I mind when i was a lot youner started doing that for some reason, eventually the top lever split my thimb nail in 2 one day, still mind it being sore I've had this problem and that was the cause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Finger issue grip or gun fit easily checked by a competent coach and a common problem. Safety sound like the spring is loss or worn easy fixes of either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) I'm no expert on gunsmithing but generally the safety on most SxS just locks the triggers. Not sure how it would be re setting itself on recoil, althou the spring that a couple of folk have mentioned could be the cause. Thumb still most likely as spring never seems that strong to rengage it. I'm sure i had a slight similar problem at a keepers day on grouse a few seasons ago, but figured it out put it down to my hands being so cold. Wind would of cut u in 2 that day, usually i never need to wear gloves but could of done with some that day. Both problems could be caused by a poor grip, go to clays/somewhere safe and just fire a shot in the air (safely) really concentrating on ur hand position. Compared to OU's SxS generally do have a shorter stock But any doubt take it to a gunsmith Edited December 12, 2015 by scotslad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Compared to OU's SxS generally do have a shorter stock You'll need a longer straight handed stock on a Sbs than on an OU with pistol grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Stock too short as said, spring not doing its job, get it looked at.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 20 replies and no one told you just to use 1 finger............ Tip on front trigger slip back to rear trigger simple no more sore fingers...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 20 replies and no one told you just to use 1 finger............ Tip on front trigger slip back to rear trigger simple no more sore fingers...... read closer and this has been mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Still don't see it..lol yes using pad of finger but I mean 1 finger for both triggers( get the other finger out the way) but if it has been said heyho....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Hi The stocks to short and the safety is broken strongly advise you get it looked at by a pro Fit is critical in a straight hand stock especially with double triggers All the best Of im with this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 20 replies and no one told you just to use 1 finger............ Tip on front trigger slip back to rear trigger simple no more sore fingers...... Surely no one uses two fingers when firing a SBS?.............If the stock is too short or your grip wrong (or slips!) you will skin the knuckle on your middle finger on the back of the trigger guard, the safety slipping back (as opposed to the shooter moving it back intentionally or unintentionally) onto safe after firing one barrel without opening the gun to reload is a fault and needs looking into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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