Harnser Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 We are soon to have another general election, I hope . There are a lot of bums twitching among our ruling classes after the referendum. I voted to leave and will not vote for any candidate who was against us leaving the EU . Roll on the next general election ,it will be very entertaining. Carnt wait to see all the weeping and wailing when these arrogant lot lose their seats . Perhaps any new government will learn to listen and to serve the electorate ,and not ignore us and run rough shod over us . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 UKIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Has this been confirmed?? There is no reason for a GE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 UKIP + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 With Labour out of the picture - name 3 of their front bench?? - the Tories split following Brexit and Lib Dems non-existent who the hell will run the country? I suspect it will be a new PM (May?) and a year or two of trying to heal the rift. Then possibly a GE. One thing that has come out of this is Boris is clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 UKIP Can I just point out that the Emporer has no clothes on.. UKIP parliamentary presence would be a disaster, they have served their purpose well of forcing the referendum but a UKIP government would spell the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 I think Boris campaigned to leave with no real belief we would, but I cant knock him for that because so did I. If he didn't waffle so much and decided to knuckle down and get serious he could have the makings of a statesman, but I don't think he takes the role serious enough for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Bill Bryson for PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achosenman Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Can I just point out that the Emporer has no clothes on.. UKIP parliamentary presence would be a disaster, they have served their purpose well of forcing the referendum but a UKIP government would spell the end. But the job is not done. Parliament is looking for ways to go against the vote. This despite the fact that they themselves voted 6 to 1 in favour of the referendum. Big business, the banks, news media, the ruling elite, not forgetting the luvvies in the arts, have hijacked democracy. Thankfully the chatter on social media lays bare all the rank hypocrisy and distain for anyone not in their little club. If we have to turn the UKIP Rottweiler loose in Westminster for a term to get the job done, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Has this been confirmed?? There is no reason for a GE. There is currently no agreement on the terms of brexit. There will need to be consensus on what is agreed and i suspect that it will not be what people are expecting from a leave vote. The circle will need to be squared and politicians will need a mandate for the change either through a GE or a referendum or even both. Its easy to imagine a proposal coming forward where out of the EU means a proposal to stay in the single market but accept free movement and pay in to the EU for access or some other similar combination arrangement which is not quite what the public voted for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achosenman Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 That conviently ignors the fact that the EU are insisting art 50 being triggerd before any negotiation. There will be no going back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Expect some politics in between. What is said in public to appease the audience, maybe wont be what happens in practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achosenman Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Of course but nothing concrete can be offerd, therefor no change from where we are now. The mandate is 1.3 million. Just get it done. Like chemo, it's unpleasant in the short term, but better in the longrun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 will be fishing as no longer give a toss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrM Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 That conviently ignors the fact that the EU are insisting art 50 being triggerd before any negotiation. There will be no going back. That's only their opening stance which is it would be expected - both France and Germany (I think) have elections next year and they desperately need us to be underway otherwise they face their own right wing pressure on a referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 If we do have a General Election, can anybody think of a single candidate worth voting for? On any side of the divide? That's only their opening stance which is it would be expected - both France and Germany (I think) have elections next year and they desperately need us to be underway otherwise they face their own right wing pressure on a referendum. That's the best possible outcome now, a similar result in another couple of countries and a renegotiation of EU Gen2 with some heavy duty changes implemented. Not papering over the cracks and back to the same old same old. We are still better off within the EU just not the EU that we have been lumbered with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrM Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) That's the best possible outcome now, a similar result in another couple of countries and a renegotiation of EU Gen2 with some heavy duty changes implemented. Not papering over the cracks and back to the same old same old. We are still better off within the EU just not the EU that we have been lumbered with I agree - the original concept was a common market where we could trade easily - not for a bloated political ideology influenced by one or two strong countries. Maybe it will happen where each member regains their sovereign status and their own laws but work together not live together! Anyone want to set up the PW party? Edited June 28, 2016 by MrM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Bill Bryson for PM. I'll go with that, a man after my own heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Read that idiot Hunt is putting up for PM ...know what his name rhymes with ....... and looks like one, with supercilious smirk fixed permanently on his face. The big problem with Modern Day people is they expect everything NOW !!!! INSTANTLY !!!!! It was pretty obvious to me that there would be a lot of weeping, wailing and underhand subterfuge to try and make OUR VOTE, null and void. That is the way not only the EU works but also many modern day politicians who hate to think they are not getting their own way. Yes, a new PM should be elected as quickly as possible, but even then that cannot be done overnight. ALL members of the party have to be balloted having been informed of the runners. I believe finally the two highest scorers then go into a final ballot. Takes time. They say 1st September and I think they will do well to get it sorted before then. I'm just a tad worried about Cameron sneaking about over there at the moment. Just wonder what he is up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 If we do have a General Election, can anybody think of a single candidate worth voting for? On any side of the divide? That's the best possible outcome now, a similar result in another couple of countries and a renegotiation of EU Gen2 with some heavy duty changes implemented. Not papering over the cracks and back to the same old same old. We are still better off within the EU just not the EU that we have been lumbered with +1 Even the fear of it might be enough. This from You invest. ;- Britain’s decision to leave may prompt calls from other discontented political groups, such as the Dutch Party for Freedom, the True Finns and France’s Front Nationale to call for their own votes. Such action would hardly be conducive to breeding faith in Eurozone assets or the euro currency, which could come under greater pressure over the medium term than the UK’s markets and currency. The EuroStoxx index had been volatile in the run-up to the British vote, with banking stocks and the so-called ‘peripheral’ markets like Italy, Spain and Portugal particularly susceptible to swings in the polls between “Remain” and “Leave.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 No second referendum and no General Election in sight. Why would the Tories call an election that they might lose? Absolute lunacy. Theresa May will be the new leader, steady the ship until the Tories feel that they would definitely win. That said, I can't see Labour forming a decent Opposition, let alone convincing an electorate, in the near future. I would vote Tory at the moment. Move on - nothing to see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 That's the best possible outcome now, a similar result in another couple of countries and a renegotiation of EU Gen2 with some heavy duty changes implemented. Not papering over the cracks and back to the same old same old. We are still better off within the EU just not the EU that we have been lumbered with Which is why I voted out because as long as Britain remained in nothing would change, shutting the door to our bank vaults might just work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) I will vote for anyone who will give even the slightest chance of staying in the EU. The cost of leaving is already starting to bite. Today I had four contracs with the farming community totaling thousands of pounds and a quarter of my yearly income canceled and another contract this already underway will have its EU funding stopped as soon as article 50 is triggered worth to me £30,000 over the next 7 years. With fuel prices set to rise and a massive hike in the cost of living in the pipeline the outlook is pretty grim. Edited June 28, 2016 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) No second referendum and no General Election in sight. Why would the Tories call an election that they might lose? Absolute lunacy. Theresa May will be the new leader, steady the ship until the Tories feel that they would definitely win. That said, I can't see Labour forming a decent Opposition, let alone convincing an electorate, in the near future. I would vote Tory at the moment. Move on - nothing to see here. Yep, pretty much how I see it too. I think Cameron was just plain irresponsible to resign when he did, he said before the referendum he would stay on if the vote went against him but as soon as it did he walked. His resignation has actually caused more instability than the Brexit vote. He was elected for a term and he should have had the courage to honour that commitment Edited June 28, 2016 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 I will vote for anyone who will give even the slightest chance of staying in the EU. The cost of leaving is already starting to bite. Today I had four contracs with the farming community totaling thousands of pounds and a quarter of my yearly income canceled and another contract this already underway will have its EU funding stopped as soon as article 50 is triggered worth to me £30,000 over the next 7 years. With fuel prices set to rise and a massive hike in the cost of living in the pipeline the outlook is pretty grim. Surely no EU funding will stop until we actual leave in approx. three years time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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