Davyo Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Sat and watched two union officials today checking 1st aid boxes at work.One pulling stuff out and putting it back,the other ticking stuff on a check list.Are unions now just full of skivers?Have they just joined the union as a avenue to skive? Why does it take two men 20 minutes to check a few plasters? Wy have i got a pile of work on my desk for 10 people and only me doing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 You cant put a price on worker safety and health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 You cant put a price on worker safety and health.God forbid i get a paper cut figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 The Union office was always much more cushy than the shop floor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 All the union reps I have had,have kept jobs when they should have gone down the road and are useless, selfish and a burden on the rest of the workforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 All the union reps I have had,have kept jobs when they should have gone down the road and are useless, selfish and a burden on the rest of the workforce. You don't work at Shell do you bud lol,lol Every Union person I have ever met, is a lazy work shy *****, Any excuse not to work and they are on to it in a flash Flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 God forbid i get a paper cut figgyAt least 2 people will know where to find a plaster for you :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Shouldn't the question be! Why are two Union reps carrying out a H&S or dedicated First Responders remit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Generally because if a company keeps the union/association reps happy they're less inclined to rock the apple cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 You don't work at Shell do you bud lol,lol Every Union person I have ever met, is a lazy work shy *****, Any excuse not to work and they are on to it in a flash Flynny No,it's a large cement manufacturer. A vote of no confidence would stir them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambsman Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 No,it's a large cement manufacturer. A vote of no confidence would stir them up. Are you at what used to be know as Tunnel Cement? Worked there many moons ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 If it was not for the Unions we or the pore folk would still be working for peanuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 My grandad was a strong believer in unions but he was also convinced it worked both ways. Unions have destroyed many companies in my opinion. H&S has also . Common sense is what we should be looking into Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Come down to South Wales and spend a day looking round the cemeteries at the graves of all the men who died in their 40s and 50s and you might think again about the value of H&S in the work place. Most of them coughed themselves to death on the dust and sulphur fumes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 My grandad was a strong believer in unions but he was also convinced it worked both ways. Unions have destroyed many companies in my opinion. H&S has also . Common sense is what we should be looking into your the main reason there's h&s in the work place.....talk about accident prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) Anyone daft enough to think we can do without H&S in this country don,t and have not worked in Construction or Oil & Gas, Petrochem or Heavy Industry. Even with Health and Safety lots of companies try and succeed in flouting the laws until something happens,usually a person gets hurt. Profits come first and foremost. Union Reps at work can make all the difference so long as they stay out of managements pocket. Proper Union agreements when signed up to protect the worker and the company. probelems occur when the likes of the two H&S reps at Davyo's work place milk it. Edited November 3, 2016 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayduster Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 What have the unions ever done for me? Great wage with regular increases. Index linked final salary pension. Worth every penny in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Not much has changed in sixty years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_All_Right_Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 If it was not for the Unions we or the pore folk would still be working for peanuts. Whilst this MAY be true, the case is they have evolved to not look after the working man, but themselves. They appear to want to rule the world above the elected representatives. On the two occasions they involved themselves in industries where I was working it resulted for lower wages for those who were prepared to make an effort whilst the skivers and free wheelers who involved them did well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Come down to South Wales and spend a day looking round the cemeteries at the graves of all the men who died in their 40s and 50s and you might think again about the value of H&S in the work place. Most of them coughed themselves to death on the dust and sulphur fumes I'm not denying a lot of it is needed but some stuff is pure silly. If you spill something or if the floors dirty , clean it up. Simples I also believe in machines stopping in time etc but my mate has to fill an assessment before each hole he digs for the highway and this is with a shovel . He's digging 60 holes a day and using piles of paper. I enforce dust masks and ear protection but it's common sense. We use hardwoods that damage your breathing but H&S says we are ok without in our shop. I do believe some places take the Micky tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Great film. Not much has changed in sixty years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_All_Right_Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 seen reps snowed under by complaints trumped up by lads who think they have more rights than they actually have and reps who put managers right when they think they can get away with murder .and yes plenty that are in it for themselves but overall the working man/woman would be badly off with out them.ONLY MY OPINION . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Like in all walks of life there are good and bad union reps, but remember the members voted them in! So the members can vote them out! If they are workshy, selfish, skiving wasters as you say? Don't sit there whinging, when elections come around campaign in the workplace to vote em out and then stand yourself.........remember they are the workers elected representatives, you vote em in, so "back em up" at all times, because if you don't you'll get the representation you deserve! If it was not for the honesty, guts and selfless determination of individuals who made up unions in the past we would probably still be working in sweatshops for a tanner an hour, no holiday pay, no sick pay etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Like in all walks of life there are good and bad union reps, but remember the members voted them in! So the members can vote them out! If they are workshy, selfish, skiving wasters as you say? Don't sit there whinging, when elections come around campaign in the workplace to vote em out and then stand yourself.........remember they are the workers elected representatives, you vote em in, so "back em up" at all times, because if you don't you'll get the representation you deserve! If it was not for the honesty, guts and selfless determination of individuals who made up unions in the past we would probably still be working in sweatshops for a tanner an hour, no holiday pay, no sick pay etc. I don't have a vote as not a member of the Union Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Like in all walks of life there are good and bad union reps, but remember the members voted them in! So the members can vote them out! If they are workshy, selfish, skiving wasters as you say? Don't sit there whinging, when elections come around campaign in the workplace to vote em out and then stand yourself.........remember they are the workers elected representatives, you vote em in, so "back em up" at all times, because if you don't you'll get the representation you deserve! If it was not for the honesty, guts and selfless determination of individuals who made up unions in the past we would probably still be working in sweatshops for a tanner an hour, no holiday pay, no sick pay etc. Agreed, and this is where i think it's all gone wrong. At the start of the 20th century miners had diabolical working conditions, no pithead baths etc and were badly paid for a dirty and dangerous job. The unions worked for their members to get decent pay rises and working conditions. From the 1960s onwards it went mad. At one point, Scargill was demanding a 45% rise. No wonder inflation escalated out of control. Having worked for a Japanese corporation, the difference in worker/management relationships was amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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