Mice! Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Didn't know they shot those kind of numbers on grouse, I always thought they were 100 ish bird days don't know why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Huge days like that are the exception I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Didn't know they shot those kind of numbers on grouse, I always thought they were 100 ish bird days don't know why? Will depend on the area/year. Whille that is a big day and must be on a decent moor u'd be amazed how many moors shoot days of that size and how often, and the size of bags they shoot per season. Also the cost to put on a driven day can be substantial, some of the larger moors will have 2 teams of beaters so they can star bringing int the next drive while still shooting the last With grouse it's important to get the birds shot while u can. The big days sound obscene but it's all wild birds and completely sustainable and often in a good year the biggest problem is getting enough grouse shot before the weather breaks and birds start to pack up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Good friend of mine was loading/coaching on the 12th. 720 brace day !!! 150 brace on the first drive with 52 brace by the owner alone. Different world. Which area was this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Good friend of mine was loading/coaching on the 12th. 720 brace day !!! 150 brace on the first drive with 52 brace by the owner alone. Different world. Wow, glad i wasn't paying that bill!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted August 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Wonder how over they went and how much overage per bird ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 The place i beat at average around a 1000 brace per season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Chances are it would be an invite only day. Esp with the moor owners shooting If ur in that 'cliche' group it will be surprising how many invites they get, most owners could shoot a few days all season on invites alone if not more I'd imagine it will be quite rare to actually be able to buy a day on the 12th, esp a big day, most/many moor owners will keep that day for themselves Some of the better/nice moor owners will keep quite a few days back for themselves and mates, I've even heard of some having informal locals days in sept/oct while still shooting and inviting a load of locals that normally wouldn't get invited to a decent day like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted August 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I know of two people who bought days on the 12th.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I know of two people who bought days on the 12th.. Do they have good contacts or go to the same moor every year? Have heard of more walked p or over pointers being sold on 12th thou, but still usually reserved for the same group, usually dead mens shoes to get. The couple of moors I go to most often are really non commercial so rarely sell days anyway, but even the few commercial 1's I've been on generally the 1st few days are saved for the owner as in a bad year that may be all they get. In Scotland a lot of moors won't really shoot the 12th other than a walked up or token gesture, often with the colder weather the birds aren't quite ready till later in august Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot and be safe Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I was looking at a day on the this year's glorious 12th for a pals 40th birthday (also on the glorious 12th). I did find a moor that would accommodate our team, however the moor owner would be standing in the buts shooting with us and it would be a minimum of a 200 brace day @£200/brace. Unfortunately our budgets wouldn't stretch that far. The enquiries were made 3 years ago to shoot this year's 12th. Maybe we might get out on the 12th for his 50th. Good luck to everyone who is out on the moors. Shoot straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 To answer questions above. Moor was near Durham and was an invite only day, relatively relaxed and not trying too hard! I think all the guys that I know that had a bought day on the 12th were all on walked up days. Any guys on driven days were all on invites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted August 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Not sure about one scotslad but one definitely would have good contacts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 There will be lots of 50 to 100 brace days going in October and November when Moor owners realise just how many grouse need to be shot in what appears to be an exceptional year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I'd second wot J Dog said above, the moors will be desperate to get the birds of the moor so days will be going cheap as usually no overages. In fact if ur team of guns can shoot the keepers will be encouraging u to fill ur boots. U do actually get individuals/teams of ringers that get invites at this time of year to break records but will get a lot more invites at the end of season to go onto moors and get birds off them. That will be the biggest problem most moors will have this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted August 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 So its looking like a good year then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) Didn't know they shot those kind of numbers on grouse, I always thought they were 100 ish bird days don't know why? Lord Ripon , late 1800's on Blubberhouses Moor in North Yorkshire shot just over 1100 birds to his own guns in one day (a pair of hammer ejector Purdeys) Those must have been fine days. Edited August 15, 2017 by das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Never met one that can't so where is the "generalsation"? I have met several ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Just looking at Saturdays Blackpool gazette, todays diary has 4 points going on Around the area simply says SHOOT"glorious 12th" grouse shooting season officially opens today. With a pic. Just curious, why would moor owners want the birds off at the end of the season? Are they not next years breeding stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Mice my thoughts too. You need breeding stock for following years. Wonder if it's to do with what a moor can overwinter food wise? Nothing worse than too many mouths to feed and not enough food. Grouse eat the fresh tips of the heather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Ur right figgy U need to leave some breeding stock but its getting the numbers right sometimes keepers will gamble leaving extra birds on the moor but if u get a harsh long winter all the birds will be in bad condition so either starve or breed badly. was even more critical in the past before medicated grit came out, in those days grouse numbers where boom and bust and u might only shoot 2/3 seasons out off 5 due to worms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 The old way for breeding stock was 0ne pair to the acre on account of worm but today with medicated grit moors are looking at three pair to the acre this accounts to big bags on certain drives , Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Well from what I've seen heard this year it's a real bumper year with lots of moors saying they've broken their record bag etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Lord Ripon , late 1800's on Blubberhouses Moor in North Yorkshire shot just over 1100 birds to his own guns in one day (a pair of hammer ejector Purdeys) Those must have been fine days. Lord Walsingham.............! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Lord Walsingham.............! Four guns https://www.fieldsportsmagazine.com/Shooting-Grouse/lord-walsingham-s-grouse.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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