Robertt Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 I've been testing several cartridges in my AYA , which weighs just under 6 1/2 lb for the game season and have yet to find one that doesnt beat me up. At present I can't find any Grand Prix 30g or Impax locally. Eley Zenith 30g are a bit fierce. Cheddite Royal Flush 30g really do smoke clays but again a bit of a kicker in the S x S. All the 32g loads I have tried are a non starters. Any recommendations would be really welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasabi Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hull imperial game. I used to use 26 grams. Lovely cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 I would say you want a 67mm cartridge. Hull Imperial Game - always come highly recommended Gamebore Super Game Express Special Game, Super Game or Supreme Game Don't know where you are based but maybe a call to just cartridges as they will stock all these and whilst it will cost you £15 delivery it will be virtually next day and you can order various types to try. Their own brand might be worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW95J Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Have tried Gamebore Regal Game in 30g 5 (FW). This was noticeably quite light from both O/U and SBS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted October 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Thanks for your very speedy replies! I'm near Ormskirk Lancs and I think I can get Express , Hull and Gameore locally. Will try the aforementioned if they stock them. Are any of the Pigeon cartridges suitable or are they all a bit punchy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningDJC Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Gamebore super game 28 gram nice smooth cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 I've been testing several cartridges in my AYA , which weighs just under 6 1/2 lb for the game season and have yet to find one that doesnt beat me up. At present I can't find any Grand Prix 30g or Impax locally. Eley Zenith 30g are a bit fierce. Cheddite Royal Flush 30g really do smoke clays but again a bit of a kicker in the S x S. All the 32g loads I have tried are a non starters. Any recommendations would be really welcome. use 32g subsonics, trust me 32g #4 rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 All good as already mentioned, but should your AyA be an older one with 2&1/2" chambers stay with the 65mm. I find overall these are more comfortable in mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Thanks for your very speedy replies! I'm near Ormskirk Lancs and I think I can get Express , Hull and Gameore locally. Will try the aforementioned if they stock them. Are any of the Pigeon cartridges suitable or are they all a bit punchy ? Anything with Pigeon in it`s title tends to be punchy ,as the makers think they will generally be used in autos. Any of the light game loads are what you need and stick to 24gram loads for clays . HTH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Last year or so In heavier game load have been getting on fine with RC SIPE the carccamento 32G in my AYA no4 26 inch can not say they feel uncomfortable to me and pattern great . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted October 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 This is going to cost a Kings Randsom in shells! Been practicing with 21 & 24g's , very little recoil. Might just dig out some sort of pattern plate and kill 2 birds with one stone. Presently I'm using an El Cheapo slip on pad which probably does nothing except give me the correct LOP. So I'm considering splashing out on a Limbsaver which should also help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hull Imperial Game take some beating in guns like this. My old SxS made in 1906 loves the 28g fibre no6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 See here: https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/361897-cartridge-velocity-test-27082017/?hl=velocity Pick something light-ish and slow. N.b. Eley Grand Prix and Impax are a long way from being the smoothest, softest cartridges on the market. I like paper cases as much as the next guy, but they'll tend to feel "sharp". I assume that's because of the thicker cases / reduced volume available for combustion, but I've no evidence for that (unless anyone cares to provide some). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted October 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Thanks will use that list as a guide. Hull Imperial getting a lot of thmbs up. Edited October 11, 2017 by Robertt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 that list is amazing. but it also shows such a tight window on gameloads. for clay loads it seems speed is free. but those intnl 24g loads do motor along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 How high is the game you will be shooting? I would consider some 28 gm clay cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted October 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 High but not stratospheric. Would be happy with a 28g cartridge pending avaiability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 RC Professional Game 28g are a good load too in light s/s. No7 (61/2) are great for pigeons/grouse ,whilst the No6 are 5.5 really and really do well on pheasants. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 I like RC professional in mine too. 28 or 30g. Soft enough on the shoulder and seem to kill well for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Get a gun that fits you properly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 My sxs was very punchy until I had a recoil pad fitted. I struggled shooting anything but 21g hull x comps then after the pad was fitted I could shoot 30g 6 pigeon loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted October 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Thanks for the response. Returned to a S x S after 32 years and loving it. So much fun. I'm sure there will be a many suitable shells in the above. Will try the Imperial first and work my way through the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) I use Hull Imperial Game in several s/s between just over 6 lbs to just over 7 lbs. My 'go to' gun these days is an AyA No 1, 28" barrels choked fairly open (about Imp & 1/4), 2 3/4" chambered. Excellent with Imperial Game 26g for game and Comp X 21g for clays. I have used up to 32g for occasional shots at walked up game, but although quite tolerable for a few shots, I wouldn't want to do a full day with those. Compared to an o/u, all s/s are bit 'livelier' overall, both in recoil and handling/pointability. This does take a bit of getting used to if you are used to an o/u. Unless you shoot very high 'Devon' style birds, s/s with 26 or 28g is quite adequate. Edited October 11, 2017 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonk Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 I use an English ex's which is a hundred years old and cannot recommend any other cartridge than express supreme game I shoot 30g 6 and find these extremely smooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted October 11, 2017 Report Share Posted October 11, 2017 Imperial game as already mentioned, also Gamebore extreme grouse in 29g are super soft through sxs. Similar to Neutron I also find speed to be more contributory to recoil, for example 30g dark storm are much less snappy than 28g as they are slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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