hairysausagefingers Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 I was desparate to get out on the pigeons, but despite a good drive round with the bins yesterday all I could find were some crows on freshly sprouted maize at the side of a wood on the shoot where I beat. I didn't really know what to expect as I've never bothered much with crows but I really wanted some shooting. I had a phone round today and couldn't scrounge any crow decoys off my mates, so I just set up a dozen pigeon shells and waited. First action was a couple of pigeons. Good start! Then nothing, but I was about 200m away from the line the crows were using. Packed it all up and moved. Good decision! I had a fairly steady stream of birds over me and as my crow pattern started to build I started to pull them in. I ended up with 38 jackdaws and the two pigeons. Lost about half a dozen in the wood behind too. A couple of left and rights, so pretty happy. Challenging little birds and faster than they look - I'm sure some dodged through the middle of the pattern too! https://www.dropbox.com/s/9484tyylseo99fk/20180528_172838.jpg?dl=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) Corvid shooting is my favourite anytime, Is that a very nice looking SIde by Side I see by the hide, is that new Good bag of Jackdaws they are very sporting and yes I think they can fly through the pattern Edited May 28, 2018 by AYA117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairysausagefingers Posted May 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 Ha ha, yes it might just be a new one ?. Well spotted sir! There's also an old Lanber o/u sleeved up behind the net. Not sure which one I shot best with....not much in it. Very sporting little birds. I was shooting 6's but 7.5's would have been ample and a bit denser I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 Did you have permission to shoot the jackdaws .they are protected to a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 45 minutes ago, Swinton said: Did you have permission to shoot the jackdaws .they are protected to a point They are on the general licence and on my farm they carry Avian T B which is found in the cattle , the birds are gorging on the cattle food in the sheds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 50 minutes ago, Swinton said: Did you have permission to shoot the jackdaws .they are protected to a point What point is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 im plagued with 8 jackdaws in my garden...they wreck and empty the bird feeders....muscle in and steel all other food......they are like a bunch of destructive yobs.....the time is coming when they will ascend to a higher plane... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 29 minutes ago, ditchman said: im plagued with 8 jackdaws in my garden...they wreck and empty the bird feeders....muscle in and steel all other food......they are like a bunch of destructive yobs.....the time is coming when they will ascend to a higher plane... hello, out with the 77 and superdomes ditchman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 If I remember correctly your backstops are limited. Put the bird feeders on the lawn and head up to your bedroom with the air gun. By the way the Jackdaws are the black coloured birds with grey heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, JDog said: If I remember correctly your backstops are limited. Put the bird feeders on the lawn and head up to your bedroom with the air gun. By the way the Jackdaws are the black coloured birds with grey heads. they have a system.............2 of them rag the bird feeder one of them on the side and one upside down...if they cant pull it off the branch they rag the fat balls and they fall to bits and fall on the grass where the other ones are waiting to snatch up the broken food.....i put 5 fat balls in the feeder at 7 in the morning and by 10 in the morning the same day, they had all gone....the fat balls usually last a week and a half....i will wait till i gat the mercury mod S back fit a taticle sight to it....then its going to be jackdaw armegeddon...... i do not like shooting birds in my garden...but this has gone too far.............. Last year i decieded to let all the borders and around the tress go back to nature...i scratched in some wildflower mix and left it...not a lot happened last year...but this year all i do is prune (lift) the trees and cut the grass..............it is a wildlife heaven....i must have increased the bird life and buzzy things by 100%............very very pleased with the result.... apart from the jackdaws....i dont mind 1 or 2 visiting...but this is too much....everybody in the village is complaining about them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 SWMBO and I were discussing this today whilst walking the mut and agreed the numbers seem to have exploded and some of the farmers are complaining of damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: SWMBO and I were discussing this today whilst walking the mut and agreed the numbers seem to have exploded and some of the farmers are complaining of damage. Just wait until the winter barley lodges. Then you will see some Jackdaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Swinton said: Did you have permission to shoot the jackdaws .they are protected to a point What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 I guess they are protected the same as the other corvids and pigeons . (Ie they are on the general licence .) And you need to fullfil the terms of the licence to take them . I dont think stealing bird food (hey they are birds too ) would fulfill the terms. ? Ps your not alowed to bait birds to shoot them . So i guess , even if you could prove they are doing crop damage or nest raiding ,shooting them off a feeder would be baiting them and hence illegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decoy1979 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 11 hours ago, Swinton said: Did you have permission to shoot the jackdaws .they are protected to a point Someone's clearly not got a lot of shooting opportunities at the moment, you need to get out more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 A strange thing the 'General licence' more rubbish from Europe! Correct me if I am wrong ( I am not ) is Europe not the place that shoots Thrushes and sells special cartridges for the shooting of migratory birds, what crop damage do they do ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 one rule for them, and one for us, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, mossy835 said: one rule for them, and one for us, Only because they just go shooting, over here there are too many people over analysing everything. We have a perfectly good Wildlife and Countryside Act, what you can and cannot shoot and when, stick to that and you will not go wrong. Oh! and check this out http://browning.eu/catalogues/winen/# and go to page 80, yes there really is a recommended cartridge for larks and the biggest agricultural pest of all time, the ROBIN 'where legal' so do not tell me that Jackdaws have any protection at any point under the General licenc PS I know you did not say they were 'protected' Edited May 29, 2018 by AYA117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) On 29/05/2018 at 08:30, Swinton said: Did you have permission to shoot the jackdaws .they are protected to a point To the point when they fly into my decoy pattern! Boom boom lol Edited May 31, 2018 by Bluebarrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) On 29/05/2018 at 09:42, ditchman said: im plagued with 8 jackdaws in my garden...they wreck and empty the bird feeders....muscle in and steel all other food......they are like a bunch of destructive yobs.....the time is coming when they will ascend to a higher plane... I have a very similar issue and plan on resolving it tomorrow morning when I get in after nights. They eat all food put out and bully the little birds away. Edited May 31, 2018 by GingerCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Over the last few years the jackdaw population has increased dramatically this is mainly due to the mild winters of late also we see more farms changing to organic . These places are free meals for jackdaws they raid the meal stores , enter the free range poultry houses and steal the eggs , sheep and beef field feeders are a favourite place also the piggeries . Where you see sheep in fields you also see rooks and jackdaws ,the most destructive period is when the barley starts to ripen ,if you get a flock of 100 plus jackdaws and rooks on ripen barley it is not long in taking out a half of acre .. Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 On 29/05/2018 at 09:42, ditchman said: im plagued with 8 jackdaws in my garden...they wreck and empty the bird feeders....muscle in and steel all other food......they are like a bunch of destructive yobs.....the time is coming when they will ascend to a higher plane... The same here Ditchers.. That time will be 5am in the morning here, loaded and ready to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 33 minutes ago, turbo33 said: The same here Ditchers.. That time will be 5am in the morning here, loaded and ready to go? lock and load................ahhhhh the smell of napalm in the morning.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 On 29/05/2018 at 10:48, ditchman said: they have a system.............2 of them rag the bird feeder one of them on the side and one upside down...if they cant pull it off the branch they rag the fat balls and they fall to bits and fall on the grass where the other ones are waiting to snatch up the broken food.....i put 5 fat balls in the feeder at 7 in the morning and by 10 in the morning the same day, they had all gone....the fat balls usually last a week and a half....i will wait till i gat the mercury mod S back fit a taticle sight to it....then its going to be jackdaw armegeddon...... i do not like shooting birds in my garden...but this has gone too far.............. Last year i decieded to let all the borders and around the tress go back to nature...i scratched in some wildflower mix and left it...not a lot happened last year...but this year all i do is prune (lift) the trees and cut the grass..............it is a wildlife heaven....i must have increased the bird life and buzzy things by 100%............very very pleased with the result.... apart from the jackdaws....i dont mind 1 or 2 visiting...but this is too much....everybody in the village is complaining about them... I'm disappointed in you ditch man, a simple solution would be to put your fat balls in an enclosed bird table, just put inch and a half ish mesh around the outside, the little tits robins finches won't bat an eye lid they'll land go straight through and feed safely, the big bullies will move on if they can't get an easy feed. And if they don't, you tried your best before shooting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 General Licence GL05 is available for use by relevant persons for killing Jackdaws for Public Health or Public Safety. The amount of mess they cause which can encourage vermin is IMHO sufficient reason to use it under Public Health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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