Brexit - merged threads

[pinfireman]

3 hours ago, dead eye alan said:

Don't make me puke the thought of that choice makes me feel I'll, if another vote takes place it should have the same choices as the last one.

And that would be ignored as well!

Correct!

55 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

People aren't that stupid, if they force a deal through to avoid EU elections and Farage runs a general election, I can see a land slide occurring. 

Never in my life have I been so disappointed with all the main political parties in my life, I will never vote for Conservatives again unless there is huge and lasting change in the way politics is done. 

Well said. 

23 minutes ago, panoma1 said:

The decision to leave the EU is made!.........Any so called people's vote, should not be a rerun of the referendum and should have only 3 following options.

1) Mays deal

2) The Corbin/May deal

3) Leave with no deal

I know which way I'd vote!

We had a referendum, we do NOT need another one! That would be a disaster, as the Establishment would fix it so that, no matter what we voted for, we would be staying in.....! No thanks! Honour the first referendum!

[panoma1]

1 hour ago, pinfireman said:

We had a referendum, we do NOT need another one! That would be a disaster, as the Establishment would fix it so that, no matter what we voted for, we would be staying in.....! No thanks! Honour the first referendum!

I agree we don't need a new referendum, the UK leaving the EU has already been decided!

I also said IF there is a "people's vote" (and I don't want one either!) the options on the ballot paper should just be three questions!.........asking HOW we leave......

1) Mays deal

2) The Corbin/May deal

3) Leave with no deal

Staying in the EU should not be an option!.......in other words...Honour the first referendum!

[Vince Green]

15 hours ago, panoma1 said:

I agree we don't need a new referendum, the UK leaving the EU has already been decided!

I also said IF there is a "people's vote" (and I don't want one either!) the options on the ballot paper should just be three questions!.........asking HOW we leave......

1) Mays deal

2) The Corbin/May deal

3) Leave with no deal

Staying in the EU should not be an option!.......in other words...Honour the first referendum!

Absolutely right! if there was a second vote remain cannot be an option on the paper, that has already been voted out and is now dead.

[JohnfromUK]

16 hours ago, panoma1 said:

I agree we don't need a new referendum, the UK leaving the EU has already been decided!

I also said IF there is a "people's vote" (and I don't want one either!) the options on the ballot paper should just be three questions!.........asking HOW we leave......

1) Mays deal

2) The Corbin/May deal

3) Leave with no deal

Staying in the EU should not be an option!.......in other words...Honour the first referendum!

The Corbin/May deal (if it is as rumoured) is remain without any say (no trade deals elsewhere if you are in the single market)

The May deal is also virtually remain, but without (quite) the same tie into the single market - which I think means some possibility of our own trade deals.

No deal is the only REAL leave option, and Parliament (our elected representatives) have ruled that out - so that will not be on the paper (and realistically with one of three it would be unlikely to win anyway).

[Rewulf]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2191634981165642/permalink/2236062460056227/?sfnsn=xmmo

When you really, really don't know what you're talking about. 

[Newbie to this]

3 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2191634981165642/permalink/2236062460056227/?sfnsn=xmmo

When you really, really don't know what you're talking about. 

You'll have to give us a clue, the link doesn't work, I'm assuming it is from a closed group.

[Rewulf]

1 minute ago, Newbie to this said:

You'll have to give us a clue, the link doesn't work, I'm assuming it is from a closed group.

Sorry, doesn't work for me either now, says its been removed. 

It was a daft student with a placard saying 'Conservatives Out, immigrants IN!, telling the reporter how the best thing that the EU gives us is the NHS 🙄

Found another link, it's a classic. 

 

[Scully]

Empty head. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Dopey cow!

[Newbie to this]

Thanks Rewulf.

Brainwashing at it's best there.

[Lloyd90]

Amazed to hear today that apparently May has said there could be a second vote and the option to remain will be on it. 

It’ll be: 

1: Mays deal

2: No deal 

3: Remain

Notice how it has been manipulated so that is splits the vote of leavers, whilst remainers would obviously all vote for Remain. 

 

What on Earth is May doing. She may as well declare as a Labour Party member on the payroll of the EU for Christ sake!!

[pinfireman]

May & Corbyn will do anything, rather than face Nigel Farage & The Brexit Party in an election! They have still not grasped the fact that the old ways of doing things without regard to the people, are over! Whatever happens, Brexit is NOT going away!  The tories backers, big business, and Labours backers, the unions,  think that they rule us....they are in for a rude awakening!

1 hour ago, Rewulf said:

Sorry, doesn't work for me either now, says its been removed. 

It was a daft student with a placard saying 'Conservatives Out, immigrants IN!, telling the reporter how the best thing that the EU gives us is the NHS 🙄

Found another link, it's a classic. 

 

Looks about 16 years old, which means she has not yet developed a brain! She is unaware that the term Socialist Worker is an oxymoron....................most of those of that ilk around here do NOT work! Or pay taxes!

[panoma1]

Immature adolescent that yearns to be heard and to feel she belongs, and thinks she can change the cruel world.......but doesn't know her **** from her elbow!

Oh! And for accuracy Rewulf......the placard in the picture says, Tories out "refugees" in........not Conservatives out "immigrants" in?

[Newbie to this]

Worth a try.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/255223

 

[Rewulf]

12 hours ago, panoma1 said:

Oh! And for accuracy Rewulf......the placard in the picture says, Tories out "refugees" in........not Conservatives out "immigrants" in?

My apologies 😱 I watched it on FB and  put the link up, then when it didnt work anymore , tried to explain what was in it from memory.

Then I searched for it and found it on YT, a longer version.

[Dave-G]

And she is probably typical of our university 'trained personel' who are doing what they think is best for our people, but is actually best to expand Europe at our expense.

I wonder if she'd be capable of explaining why we get NHS tourists from Europe if its Europe that gives us the NHS.

[Scully]

15 minutes ago, Dave-G said:

And she is probably typical of our university 'trained personel' who are doing what they think is best for our people, but is actually best to expand Europe at our expense.

I wonder if she'd be capable of explaining why we get NHS tourists from Europe if its Europe that gives us the NHS.

I’ve no doubt someone will have enlightened her by now. 👍

[ditchman]

got my poll card today......................

 

for the time we have left in the eu parliament can a brexit party make any difference ?

[Rewulf]

32 minutes ago, Dave-G said:

And she is probably typical of our university 'trained personel' who are doing what they think is best for our people, but is actually best to expand Europe at our expense.

I wonder if she'd be capable of explaining why we get NHS tourists from Europe if its Europe that gives us the NHS.

You know the impression I got, and Ive seen plenty of the same 'type' ?
Some one came up to her on her campus / college and said here you go, heres a sign and a crisp £20, go forth and demonstrate.

When she was asked a straight forward question, she floundered, and didnt really have an answer , she lacked the conviction.

This sort of thing is very prevalent in the US , paid protesters, trying to influence.

To see it happen here is sickening, when you hear of anti Brexit marches having buses laid on from various parts of the country, paid for by ??

[Rewulf]

Just saw that May has an appointment with Brady from the 1922 committee today, to discuss her 'future'
Even someone as stubborn as her must know she doesnt have one.

Some were even speculating on her resigning today ?

[Vince Green]

Don't underestimate the Socialist Workers Party, they are evil 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

1 hour ago, Rewulf said:

Just saw that May has an appointment with Brady from the 1922 committee today, to discuss her 'future'
Even someone as stubborn as her must know she doesnt have one.

Some were even speculating on her resigning today ?

Surely if she has any honour she will stay till "her" problem is sorted out?

[pinfireman]

The Lib Dems have produced a flashy new video urging Remainers to vote for the Lib Dems to overtake the pro-leave parties. But following years of dodgy Lib Dem bar chart tradition, their own calculations don’t work…

Taking the latest poll, the parties that the Lib Dems say are ‘Brexit Parties’ make up… 68% of the vote, with just 28% for the UK’s Remain Parties. Guido has helpfully made a more accurate graphic for them…

I wonder if the Shadow Home Secretary did the arithmetic for them?

Source: GUIDO FAWKES

The EU’s latest official figures have been published today, slashing the previously predicted German growth rate of 1.1% to just to just 0.5%. Out of the ‘big four’ large EU countries, the UK is joint first with France, both countries growing 1.3%. Germany is languishing on 0.5% and Italy barely has its head above water on 0.1%. This isn’t what we were told was supposed to happen…

Source GUIDO FAWKES

37 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

Don't underestimate the Socialist Workers Party, they are evil 

Somehow, Socialist & Worker do not go together?

Edited May 7, 2019 by pinfireman

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Time to get your **** in gear Mrs May and get us OUT ASAP!

[Walker570]

On 09/04/2019 at 18:02, oowee said:

🤣 My dentist is from Latvia, my ENT surgeon is from Italy, I have friends who are Spanish and Slovak Financial Analysts, a Slovak M&A lawyer, a Slovak Accountant and my wife is a Slovak Analyst, my daughters friends are Polish and French and are both doctors, my future son in law has friends from Italy, Poland and Czech who are Dr's of research, not a representative sample, i know. Its and likely that the vast majority employed in lower skilled work even though they are probably far from low skilled. Typically they start there and move on. 

My point being that the countries wealth relies upon many advanced companies that regularly trade labour back and forth together with family. If there is any sort of friction then this all starts to slow down and puts us at a disadvantage. Don't believe what you hear re points systems and allowing skilled workers that's not the point. 

BUT. I have to ask, do we need the VERY expensive corrupt organisation called the EU in order for all of those fine people to come and work here.  I am absolutely sure they would be made welcome after we leave but at least we could get rid of the hangers on, thieves and robbers who have free access.  The whole point of free ranging access was to mix everyone up and destroy the Nation States, well I am afraid their plans have failed as it is very likely to go in the oppsite direction as Extreme Nationalism is already raising it's ugly head across Europe.

A number of us predicted this 12 to 15yrs ago and the EU is disintegrated before our eyes.  If you cannot see it happening then you must look at life through rose tinted glasses.

Than heavens we never joined the euro.