Raja Clavata Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 17 hours ago, Retsdon said: Agreed, Cummings is very good at winning political battles. But like in everything, it's far easier to destroy than it is to build. And that's what makes me suspicious of Cummings. I think he's just a destroyer. Here's another quotation from the linked piece. ...One of his former professors warmly remembers their long tutorial discussions...” He was “something like a Robespierre – someone determined to bring down things that don’t work”. A confidant of Cummings today puts it differently: “He just wants to sweep rotten stuff away.” Another way of saying that might be that he's another Bolshie revolutionary! And you're correct in what you say above. So far, he's been pretty successful. He's successfully destroyed the 40 year old partnership that we've enjoyed with out nearest neighbours. He's successfully destroyed the Conservative party as a broad church and, as you say, he's destroyed the political opposition (although a lot of that was self-inflicted). It seems now that his next target is going to be the Civil Service. It's all very well, but the problem is - how is all this destruction going to be rebuilt? And here we come to the nub of the issue. People like Cummings thrive on conflict and battle. But once the battle has been won and the opposition 'destroyed or in disarray' - then what? My guess is that after vanquishing the foe he will get bored of the tiresome detail that creating something new will inevitably involve, and walks away leaving someone else to try and sort out the mess. The worry then is that Humpty Dumpty might not be so easy to put back together again! Very astute post. In order for what he is trying to do to work Cummings needs a counterpart who is a "builder" and one who is into the detail at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 Quote He's successfully destroyed the 40 year old partnership that we've enjoyed with out nearest neighbours. He's successfully destroyed the Conservative party as a broad church According to your logic, that description would fit anyone who voted Tory. It's your opinion, but frankly not worth a great deal. A lot of supposition, but no facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 On 18/12/2019 at 16:43, muncher said: Paper is the obvious one, and with care they work, but did not need much damp to make them swell as i am sure you know already. I thought if they used some form of rolled glued foil case tubes these would be similar to the old 18th century military rounds zulu era. You might get to load them another time too, face it modern cases are not much better than that anyway. Home loading might be an idea to start back to brass cases magtech and others available , and sure if it became popular other firms would make them. Another thing, if they are making degradable wads would that material be ok for case hull tubes? or is it not resilient enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 'He's successfully destroyed the 40 year old partnership that we've enjoyed with out nearest neighbours. He's successfully destroyed the Conservative party as a broad church' Well my take is the EU has spent 40 years successfully exploiting our gullibility to be now led by a nose ring into how they require us to be subservient to their diktats designed to bring us down to their level. The current stitch up is nothing like the common market we voted to be part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 Retsdon, if it's that bad perhaps you should leave the country, oh wait a minute you already have. For the first time in recent years we have a Government with a very useful majority, I look forward to seeing what can be done in the long term to bring this country back to what it once was. Hopefully the pointless liberal do gooders will not have enough clout to spoil or slow things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Retsdon, if it's that bad perhaps you should leave the country, oh wait a minute you already have. For the first time in recent years we have a Government with a very useful majority, I look forward to seeing what can be done in the long term to bring this country back to what it once was. Hopefully the pointless liberal do gooders will not have enough clout to spoil or slow things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 Who are all these remain / pro Eu , ?, OK i am not that sociable but In Lincolnshire I have come across TWO One my mate daughter aged 12 who got the pro eu idea from her math teacher from school who left university about 7 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Retsdon, if it's that bad perhaps you should leave the country, oh wait a minute you already have. For the first time in recent years we have a Government with a very useful majority, I look forward to seeing what can be done in the long term to bring this country back to what it once was. Hopefully the pointless liberal do gooders will not have enough clout to spoil or slow things. Agree we need to get this done and dusted so we can start putting right the damage those in government who stood in the way of Us leaving every chance they got. Teresa may and Boris johnson tried hard to get it passed, yesterday was the first step to sorting this mess out. Let us hope we are out this time on 31st jan, then we can start years late to repair the damage that should have never happened in the first place. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Has the exodus started.. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1220232/Brussels-chaos-Spain-Poland-EU-Brexit-Spaxit-Vox-ECJ-latest-news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said: Has the exodus started.. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1220232/Brussels-chaos-Spain-Poland-EU-Brexit-Spaxit-Vox-ECJ-latest-news I’d like to think so.....little steps and all that. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 And now ladies and gents, its the moment youve been waiting for.....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 On 23/12/2019 at 16:34, Rewulf said: And now ladies and gents, its the moment youve been waiting for.....! Ha ha, very accurate and true,................also mentioned in dispatches, and worthy of losers medals.........Dominic Grieve, Hilary Benn, Michael Heseltine, Kenneth Clarke, Tony Blair, John Major, Chuka Umuna, and Owen Jones. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted December 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 On 23/12/2019 at 16:34, Rewulf said: And now ladies and gents, its the moment youve been waiting for.....! On a similar humorous note, I hear that Jeremy Corbyn sent many of his 'followers' advent calendars. However there was a problem when the recipients discovered that they couldn't open the door of No. 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 Boom boom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JohnfromUK Posted December 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Good News https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7826919/Britain-remain-dominant-global-economy-Brexit-new-analysis-suggests.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: Good News https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7826919/Britain-remain-dominant-global-economy-Brexit-new-analysis-suggests.html What is? The UK continues to benefit from a young population – boosted by immigration – and strong performance in the technological, pharmaceutical and creative industries. However, it ceased to be the world’s fifth largest economy in 2019 as fast-growing India raced past. Edited December 26, 2019 by oowee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, oowee said: What is? Britain will remain a dominant global economy after Brexit, analysis suggests. Long-term forecasts show the UK will continue to pull away from France as Europe’s second- biggest economy. The Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR) said that ‘despite Brexit, the French economy failed to overtake the UK’ in the three years since the EU referendum. On current trends, Britain’s output should be ‘a quarter larger than the French economy’ by 2034, its projections found. The UK continues to benefit from a young population – boosted by immigration – and strong performance in the technological, pharmaceutical and creative industries. However, it ceased to be the world’s fifth largest economy in 2019 as fast-growing India raced past. It is now expected to overhaul Germany in six years and Japan by 2034. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: Britain will remain a dominant global economy after Brexit, analysis suggests. Long-term forecasts show the UK will continue to pull away from France as Europe’s second- biggest economy. The Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR) said that ‘despite Brexit, the French economy failed to overtake the UK’ in the three years since the EU referendum. On current trends, Britain’s output should be ‘a quarter larger than the French economy’ by 2034, its projections found. The UK continues to benefit from a young population – boosted by immigration – and strong performance in the technological, pharmaceutical and creative industries. However, it ceased to be the world’s fifth largest economy in 2019 as fast-growing India raced past. It is now expected to overhaul Germany in six years and Japan by 2034. So what is the good news? That France is not doing so well? That we continue to benefit from immigration that is due to be closed off? Or that despite Brexit Britain will not cease trading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 minute ago, oowee said: So what is the good news? That France is not doing so well? That we continue to benefit from immigration that is due to be closed off? Or that despite Brexit Britain will not cease trading? That we are finally going down the democratic route and leaving the great white elephant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: That we are finally going down the democratic route and leaving the great white elephant! Got ya I thought for a moment it was the non report that we were celebrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, oowee said: So what is the good news? That France is not doing so well? That we continue to benefit from immigration that is due to be closed off? Or that despite Brexit Britain will not cease trading? You sound disappointed that the forecasts do not predict the UK going down the pan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, panoma1 said: You sound disappointed that the forecasts do not predict the UK going down the pan? ? I can safely predict that the sun will still be in the sky in 2030. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Hows your new MP ? Oh wait, it's the same one 😂 ! Must be all racists round your way...merry Brexitmas ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Hows your new MP ? Oh wait, it's the same one 😂 ! Must be all racists round your way...merry Brexitmas ! Xmas is a time for forgiveness..... I forgive you ‘Brexiteers’ 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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