snow white Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 Hi I was not on shoot today but just been told one of the picker ups dogs was run over I phoned the lad that owns it was told it passed away at vets. Whats made my blood boil is that the gun that done it didn’t give a fxxxxx just said it should have been on lead the dog was just on its way back to the motor after the days shoot. What a ******* I am just glad I was not there I would have lost it hearing that apparently he comes from Conway area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 What an awful thing to happen - bad enough losing your Dog but to be confronted by some self centred half wit to boot is unacceptable. Easy to say but had it been my Dog the driver would have been showing considerable remorse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 I suspect the shoot may find itself short of pickers up if the gun is a regular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 Sounds like the gun was a VIP, (in his own little world) He needs a beating stick using as a suppository. Just now, Yellow Bear said: I suspect the shoot may find itself short of pickers up if the gun is a regular. The shoots wont run without beaters. Thats more of an impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, snow white said: Hi I was not on shoot today but just been told one of the picker ups dogs was run over I phoned the lad that owns it was told it passed away at vets. Whats made my blood boil is that the gun that done it didn’t give a fxxxxx just said it should have been on lead the dog was just on its way back to the motor after the days shoot. What a ******* I am just glad I was not there I would have lost it hearing that apparently he comes from Conway area. Which Shoot Tony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 That is an awful story. Can we crowd fund for a new dog for that beater? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) hello, would the shoot have liability insurance? crowd fund to sue the person responsible Edited October 13, 2019 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butchdickason Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 The shoot should have insurance to cover this sort of dreadful accident, there is no excuse for the behaviour of the person responsible VIP or not.🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, butchdickason said: The shoot should have insurance to cover this sort of dreadful accident, there is no excuse for the behaviour of the person responsible VIP or not.🥴 I was being sarcastic 're VIP. Having that awful reaction to the accident is just 100% unacceptable. Accidents happen, avoidable yes, but they happen none the less and most from a lack of concentration or distraction. The very least the vehicle driver should show some empathy, not shrug it off as has been posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 Very sad state of affaires to loss a dog in an accident but to rub salt into the wounds by the t*t who was involved is just not on . As a man who works his dogs on a few shoots I have noticed a lack of respect from guns towards beaters and dogs . As not many thank you or even offer a kind word or a friendly pat to tired dogs. Good manners cost nowt the person who ran the dog over will most likely be thinking of how much it might cost him if he said sorry and accepted his part in the accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 Yes, I must admit I have met a few guns these days who are not what I call 'Countrymen'....shot a few clays and think they are the bees knees. You never see them wlk back at the end of the day and thank the beaters and pickers up for instance. They leave their pegs and go picking up up birds they have shot instead of notifying pickers up of birds down and location. The beaters and pickers up are..in my view...paid a pittance for what they do and require far more respect. If I have birds down I stay on my peg until a picker up appears and notify him / her of the location/s. If there was the lack of concern as reported then the beating/picking up team should say goodbye and see what the shoots reaction would be. Any crowd funding there will be a 'note' in the post from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTaylor91 Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 Terrible end to a day. As above, any crowd funding would have my backing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 Lots of guns think beaters are just local scum who need a few quid and do it oy for money. I've been on syndicate shoots where some guns have dogs and like work them on some drives early on,so will go as a walking gun working the dog and other guest guns have been less than gentleman towards them only to end up with egg on their face later in the day. The best days I've been on are where guns and beaters pickers up all share their lunches and socialise together. Day works great when all are a big team. The them and us types are not fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, figgy said: The best days I've been on are where guns and beaters pickers up all share their lunches and socialise together. Day works great when all are a big team. The them and us types are not fun. Well said sir, that is so often true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted October 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 I have spoke to the keeper and told him if that guy turns up again I will have to say something as I don’t let thinks drop till I have said or done something. I have also told him that I will walk off and he can do what he likes with is birds I normally shoot two three times a month so if he loses me for one bloke that as never been there before it’s entirely up to him. I don’t know what the lad is going to do about another dog yet as I have not spoken to him today I thought would leave it couple days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 Surprised anyone has mentioned insurance. I have a dog, not a gun dog, but if you harmed her all the insurance in the world would male F all difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 What a tragedy, it would have been bad enough with a passing motorist, but Gun on the shoot to behave in such a callous manner is not to be forgiven. A shoot I beat on now had a team member looses a dog over a cliff face. It was some years ago before my time but I think the shoot owner cancelled the day and the team dibbed in towards a replacement. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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