TRINITY Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 Hi guys, I have a miroku 3800 and thinking about having the first barrel opening out a little. Any idea what the going rate is in the Yorkshire/ north region Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 you can go the cheap route or the expensive route cheap route.......take it into yer average gunsmith and ask him to ream it out to so and so...........£30-50 quid/barrell..you end up with something adequate expensive route...(like wot i did)....take it to a gunmaker...he will ask you for a box of the cartridges you use and ask you what you are trying to acheive on the pattern...he will then ream it out a bit and try it...ream a bit more and try it ream and polish and then try it until it is near as perfect pattern......that cost me £300 for 2 barrells....but it was exactly what was needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 It's just the reaming out either but the profile of the choke when they do it. Ring kg Burrill in Bedale, he is a gunmaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
222mark Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Buy an adjustable reamer and take a bit out at a time yourself until you get the required pattern. that's the cheapest option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Buy a multi-choke gun... On 14/10/2019 at 18:34, ditchman said: you can go the cheap route or the expensive route cheap route.......take it into yer average gunsmith and ask him to ream it out to so and so...........£30-50 quid/barrell..you end up with something adequate expensive route...(like wot i did)....take it to a gunmaker...he will ask you for a box of the cartridges you use and ask you what you are trying to acheive on the pattern...he will then ream it out a bit and try it...ream a bit more and try it ream and polish and then try it until it is near as perfect pattern......that cost me £300 for 2 barrells....but it was exactly what was needed Are you now a top class shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 46 minutes ago, Lloyd90 said: Buy a multi-choke gun... Are you now a top class shot? not anymore........i sold the sidexside that i had someone work on..............then out of regret...bought another sxs the same model...but funds were short so i had my local smith..ream the chokes out to the "size" of the gun that i sold.............. it worked okay...but it never shot as good as the one i sold............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 14/10/2019 at 18:34, ditchman said: you can go the cheap route or the expensive route cheap route.......take it into yer average gunsmith and ask him to ream it out to so and so...........£30-50 quid/barrell..you end up with something adequate expensive route...(like wot i did)....take it to a gunmaker...he will ask you for a box of the cartridges you use and ask you what you are trying to acheive on the pattern...he will then ream it out a bit and try it...ream a bit more and try it ream and polish and then try it until it is near as perfect pattern......that cost me £300 for 2 barrells....but it was exactly what was needed Went the cheap route once. Never again. Had one AYA 25 SL virtually ruined. By that I mean for me. I had the damage sorted out which took a load more choke out but at least this time it was done properly and I sold it Had the replacement gun let out via the expensive route and got what I was after. It didn't make me a better shot but it improved my performance no end as the quality of the patterns reduced the number of wouded birds considerably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 21 hours ago, 222mark said: Buy an adjustable reamer and take a bit out at a time yourself until you get the required pattern. that's the cheapest option. So how does this work? or am I missing something on how the choke cone works and a adjustable reamer works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Old farrier said: So how does this work? or am I missing something on how the choke cone works and a adjustable reamer works I have a distinct feeling that you know precisely how both work and also that you end up with a very short - or at best a much shorter - cone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 That would depend upon the pitch of the reamer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, wymberley said: I have a distinct feeling that you know precisely how both work and also that you end up with a very short - or at best a much shorter - cone. Never to old to learn something new 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamwansbeck Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 40 Odd years a go a fellow apprentice decided to make his SBS into improved and quarter from half and full,and i mind saying to him how will you ensure the adjustable reamer will start ans stay true concentric with the barre,but he was an engineer(nearly),took out 15 thou on first barrel and 30 thou on the second hand polished, it and it did look good,when patterned it threw the centre of the pattern 2 foot high on the first barrel and low and to the right on the second,he was lucky one of the machine shop tool makers managed to make a guide rodwith rollers and bored it true cylinder in both barrels,and it shot ok in fact a great gun for flighting duck on inland ponds.Moral of story be very careful of adjustable reamers unless very competent in their use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: That would depend upon the pitch of the reamer! And how long it is im assuming the correct way to do it is from the breech to get a tapering constriction of chokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 You could always go multi-choke. Teague do one barrel for £165, plus about £44 per choke. Might make it more versatile in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertt Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) ' Versitile.'......Just use 1/2 for everything. If you want more or less change the cartridge. That's ' Versitile ' 👍 Edited October 17, 2019 by Robertt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 If it really is just a little, changing the cartridges might just sort it at zero cost. EDIT: Oops! Snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) Will it really make that much of a difference? I cant even remember what some of my fixed choked guns are and I can hit stuff with most of them, I would just learn to shoot the gun and get on with it! Edited October 18, 2019 by Wingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Wingman said: Will it really make that much of a difference? I cant even remember what some of my fixed choked guns are and I can hit stuff with most of them, I would just learn to shoot the gun and get on with it! This always makes me chuckle in disbelief whenever I read this or similar sentiments. It's kind of like saying, "I don't know how many CCs my car engine is". Paradoxically perhaps, because if it were to be acceptable to change, "can't even remember" to 'don't know', then currently this is increasingly becoming true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 19 hours ago, Robertt said: ' Versitile.'......Just use 1/2 for everything. If you want more or less change the cartridge. That's ' Versitile ' 👍 What cartridges will throw an extra full pattern with half choke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 I have a s/s bored 1/2 with the old Hull high pheasant 1 1/16 will shoot 73% felt wad .Eley o/t trap will also go full. You need to try different loads .Slower the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, dipper said: I have a s/s bored 1/2 with the old Hull high pheasant 1 1/16 will shoot 73% felt wad .Eley o/t trap will also go full. You need to try different loads .Slower the better. nothing wrong with slow.............people get too tied up in velocity...slow is smooth...smooth = nice pattern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie b Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 could go the really cheap method baikai used lop half an inch of the barrel and see what your left with this is a tongue in cheek reply but i think its what they really did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 dont remember were I got it from.But when the trend for shorter barrels came.People with bespoke guns with30” sent them to a top gun maker.They would cut the barrels and shorten the choke taper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 19:52, 222mark said: Buy an adjustable reamer and take a bit out at a time yourself until you get the required pattern. that's the cheapest option. No dont do this .This is a good way of damaging the barrel and costing you more to have it put right . Adjustable reamers are OK to use IF they are driven on a long piloted shaft from the breech NOT from the muzzle . If the bore are chrome ,this needs to be honed out first with diamond stones ,or risk that the reamer will not cut and even if it does you run the risk of it boring off center as it may well and frequently does as I have seen /had many DIY jobs to put right ] If you do attempt this them buy quality reamers and grind a leading edge to enter the choke centrally . Best bite the bullet and take it to someone who knows what they are doing . Before doing anything ask yourself this . Do I realy need it done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 hello, what are the choke sizes in you 3800 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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