mel b3 Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I was hoping that one of them might show something worth looking at! That hung like a mouse rumour is totally untrue 😅. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, mel b3 said: That hung like a mouse rumour is totally untrue 😅. Except I have the photoGRAPHIC evidence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Except I have the photoGRAPHIC evidence! fat sarah will be contacting you shortly....you lucky boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 6 hours ago, ditchman said: fat sarah will be contacting you shortly....you lucky boy A tipton bloke like myself , would never falter when faced with a honey monster like fat Sarah, like any good tipton fella , I would mount the beast , and then send the pics to my mates , it's a matter of honour 😎. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 TIPton you say, looked like just about a tip in the pictures I saw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/16/rail-firm-hits-greta-thunberg-picture-sitting-train-floor-11913615/ Things like this aren't going to help her cause, if it's true then a bad choice on an unnecessary photo opportunity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/16/rail-firm-hits-greta-thunberg-picture-sitting-train-floor-11913615/ Things like this aren't going to help her cause, if it's true then a bad choice on an unnecessary photo opportunity... And we all remember someone else who supposedly couldn't find a seat on a train, don't we? Edited December 17, 2019 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 7 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: And we all remember someone else who supposedly couldn't find a seat on a train, don't we? I don't remember him. Who is it? p.s. Climate Change has now been officially renamed by the politburo as: "The Climate Crisis". Please amend your records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deker Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 it's ok we can forget about it for a little while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRINITY Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 All the argument about global warming is totally irrelevant, the exponontial rise in human population is the largest threat. There is only a finite amount of oil on the plant and in the grand scheme of things it will soon run dry. We can be as green as we wish but in 100 years time when the worlds population could be 8 times what it is know scares me far more than temperature rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, TRINITY said: All the argument about global warming is totally irrelevant, the exponontial rise in human population is the largest threat. There is only a finite amount of oil on the plant and in the grand scheme of things it will soon run dry. We can be as green as we wish but in 100 years time when the worlds population could be 8 times what it is know scares me far more than temperature rise. we will have to wait a bit until the duke of edinburugh dies as he said ,,,,,"if he is re-incarnated he will come back as a deadly virus to thin the population out......" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 just something out of interest........................ research Jerermy corbyns elder brother Richard....he is a weather scientist ...(very well qualified) and owns a forcasting company........... read his paper on Global warming...........very very interesting..... i like the cut of the mans jib.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 So they know that planting trees and other ecological measures could be used to drastically reduce CO2. Instead they promise $TRILLIONS to poorer countries (give money to poor countries to buy control... sounds familiar...), start-ups, alternative energy firms (rich getting richer, just "their" rich, not the other rich) etc in a vain attempt to appear to be doing something about the upcoming crisis. I don't get it Surely the UN could just come up with a number, twelvetysquillion trees would see us carbon neutral within 10 years, then work on plans to implement getting them planted. Poorer countries wit more space could be paid to plant, the richer countries could plant what they can (not stealing land a la Labour) then offset the rest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Demonic69 said: So they know that planting trees and other ecological measures could be used to drastically reduce CO2. That's only partly true. A tree certainly takes in CO2 to form new growth and releases the unneeded oxygen at the same time. But this only happens during the growing season. When the leaves fall they rot away and consume all the oxygen they released and release all the CO2 they consumed. The same applies to the tree's structure when it eventually dies and rots away. Whether an annual wild flower or an oak tree, all plants are carbon neutral. CO2 is painted as the bad guy causing the myth of the Climate Crisis, but the evidence is pretty flimsy, being purely circumstantial and largely guesswork since they can't think of anything else to blame. I seriously doubt whether the crusaders and hysterics like Greta and David or even most "Climatologists" have any true idea how minute the % of CO2 in the atmosphere really is and by how little it's changed, and I also doubt that they realise the full extent of climate variations during relatively recent history.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Westward said: That's only partly true. A tree certainly takes in CO2 to form new growth and releases the unneeded oxygen at the same time. But this only happens during the growing season. When the leaves fall they rot away and consume all the oxygen they released and release all the CO2 they consumed. The same applies to the tree's structure when it eventually dies and rots away. Whether an annual wild flower or an oak tree, all plants are carbon neutral. Interesting to know, cheers! I'm wondering how long it'll be before they tackle the most prolific of greenhouse gasses? Clouds and water vapour are by far the worst offender, they just haven't found a way to monetise them yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Agreed. Water vapour is many times more potent at trapping heat than CO2 and on average there's about 3,000 times as much of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Demonic69 said: So they know that planting trees and other ecological measures could be used to drastically reduce CO2. Instead they promise $TRILLIONS to poorer countries (give money to poor countries to buy control... sounds familiar...), start-ups, alternative energy firms (rich getting richer, just "their" rich, not the other rich) etc in a vain attempt to appear to be doing something about the upcoming crisis. I don't get it Surely the UN could just come up with a number, twelvetysquillion trees would see us carbon neutral within 10 years, then work on plans to implement getting them planted. Poorer countries wit more space could be paid to plant, the richer countries could plant what they can (not stealing land a la Labour) then offset the rest? youve been spending too much time with Diane Abbott you dirty dog... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic69 Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, ditchman said: youve been spending too much time with Diane Abbott you dirty dog... Why do you think she was wearing odd shoes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just now, Demonic69 said: Why do you think she was wearing odd shoes? cause you didnt go the whole way and she couldnt get out of the room quick enuff.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
243deer Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Read something interesting today about the rise of co2 levels to above 400 ppm in that the readings are taken in Hawaii close to an active volcano and when this guy checked his high street at rush hour with his own meter the highest reading he got was 350 ppm unfortunately I haven't had time to check it out yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 17/12/2019 at 19:39, ditchman said: just something out of interest........................ research Jerermy corbyns elder brother Richard....he is a weather scientist ...(very well qualified) and owns a forcasting company........... read his paper on Global warming...........very very interesting..... i like the cut of the mans jib.. Do you mean Piers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 yup piers richard corbyn.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr_Nobody said: Do you mean Piers? An interesting watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Mr_Nobody said: Do you mean Piers? Piers is at the British end of the scientists who seriously look at the solar and extra solar effects on weather and correctly identify it is the orbits of the earth and the Sun and it's cycles (sunspots, etc) which produce the climate on earth (and the planets which also have a role in affecting the sunspot cycle), rather than a molecule or two of CO2 which at 400ppm, if the atmosphere was compressed would form a band around the earth 40mm thick. this is then modified by various cooling events such as volcanic eruptions (of which we have been pretty sparse in the last 100 years). Since the average ocean depth is 3700m and the atmosphere is just an extension of the oceans (by 10m if you were to compress atmosphere to liquid)), they are quite right to dismiss atmospheric CO2 as anything less than the noise in the system and to point out the fraudulent science used to push the CO2 narrative, whether through the use of compromised temperature records, misleading graphs, hydrochloric acid added to sea water in shellfish tests instead of carbonic acid, etc etc etc Has the climate changed, Yes, will it continue changing , Yes, should we reduce toxic pollution, Yes, should we try to minimise our impact on other species and biomes, Yes, should we try a a country to live within our resources, Yes, should we try as a planet to limit the total human population to avoid a planetary humanitarian and ecological disaster, Yes! Edited December 19, 2019 by Stonepark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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