lancer425 Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 BBC link here, and more details Today in parliament. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52530518 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 And Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden says sports like golf, basketball, tennis and fishing will now be possible for people in the same household. No shooting? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robden Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 A couple of the places I was shooting, at the start of the lockdown, followed the golfing fraternity rules. Never had any problems from their council/police etc.......live in hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Farmboy91 said: And Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden says sports like golf, basketball, tennis and fishing will now be possible for people in the same household. No shooting? 😂 You answered your own question! Sports LIKE, If the Shooting Grounds are going to open and accept our money, get out there in the fresh air, not difficult to socially distance, Clubhouse would presumably be off limits. Go shoot some clays, I will as soon as I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) Raab was just on the beeb telling us that you (English) can drive to wherever you want for exercise etc even to Wales or Scotland but once there you have to obey the restrictions. Did he really think that through? Edited May 11, 2020 by henry d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) hello, i do not understand why Wales and Scotland and Northern Ireland can have different rules when we a all part of the United Kingdom, Edited May 11, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord v Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: You answered your own question! Sports LIKE, If the Shooting Grounds are going to open and accept our money, get out there in the fresh air, not difficult to socially distance, Clubhouse would presumably be off limits. Go shoot some clays, I will as soon as I can. The CPSA are drsfting guidelines for grounds, but it not clear if they will recommend opening from Wednesday. From FB it would seem a few ground owners don't want to open (or at least be the first to open) due to the backlash from some that they should still be closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i do not understand why Wales and Scotland can have different rules when we a all part of the United Kingdom, You can look at that (at least) two ways; that Wales and Scotland are on slightly different timescales for 'the curve'. Wales did get badly affected quite early, perhaps quite like England, but Scotland was a little slower, and so may be a little behind. They may also have less leeway in NHS capacity. Therefore it could be interpreted that there is some justification to be different. that the leaders of Wales and Scotland, being effectively 'opposition' parties are simply making things difficult for the government. In Scotland's case - their leader is known to oppose Westminster, and Johnson particularly at every possible opportunity. In my view, it is an unnecessary complication, but not all that serious at present since the 'relaxation' in England is very modest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i do not understand why Wales and Scotland and Northern Ireland can have different rules when we a all part of the United Kingdom, Because the Welsh and Scots do not want to be seen to be following rules which came from an English Prime Minister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said: You can look at that (at least) two ways; that Wales and Scotland are on slightly different timescales for 'the curve'. Wales did get badly affected quite early, perhaps quite like England, but Scotland was a little slower, and so may be a little behind. They may also have less leeway in NHS capacity. Therefore it could be interpreted that there is some justification to be different. that the leaders of Wales and Scotland, being effectively 'opposition' parties are simply making things difficult for the government. In Scotland's case - their leader is known to oppose Westminster, and Johnson particularly at every possible opportunity. In my view, it is an unnecessary complication, but not all that serious at present since the 'relaxation' in England is very modest. hello, cheers for reply Just now, JDog said: Because the Welsh and Scots do not want to be seen to be following rules which came from an English Prime Minister. hello, it certainly looks that way, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, cheers for reply As for them having the powers to impose and operate different rules .......... we have that name to thank that keeps cropping up for many 'trouble areas' that have occurred since, Tony Blair, who devolved power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 we should all be the same as it was the government that made the lockdown not ireland scotland or wales we are as said supposed to be the uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 In the big scheme of things if we all followed our respective guidance it wouldn't cause any problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said: As for them having the powers to impose and operate different rules .......... we have that name to thank that keeps cropping up for many 'trouble areas' that have occurred since, Tony Blair, who devolved power. hello, yes Mr Blair and his followers have a lot to answer for in their years of power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, scarecrow243 said: we should all be the same as it was the government that made the lockdown not ireland scotland or wales we are as said supposed to be the uk I agree we should - but it was our (UK) government (under Blair) who gave them the power to do differently - and we cannot now change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 I don't blame Northern Ireland for doing their own thing, they have had fewer cases and fewer deaths, they should know what is going on seeing as they are there. Similarly in Wales, if they go along with what Boris said how many people are going to turn up this week or weekend for a day trip out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Mice! said: how many people are going to turn up this week or weekend for a day trip out? My guess - and it is only a guess is that when we see the details (the promised 50 page detailed copy of what he summarised in 10 minutes last night) the 'able to drive for leisure' may well be caveated by a 'reasonable distance', or 'to a local park/facility' ........ which would fit with being able to do solitary (or household) sporting pursuits like golf. fishing, tennis etc. Edited May 11, 2020 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just one example of the issue / ambiguity - according to Boris I can take a day trip to North Wales to walk one of my favourite mountain paths, except the minute I drive into Wales I'm liable to stopped and turned back because the rules in Wales are different. Okay, Lake District here I come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, Raja Clavata said: Just one example of the issue / ambiguity - according to Boris I can take a day trip to North Wales to walk one of my favourite mountain paths, except the minute I drive into Wales I'm liable to stopped and turned back because the rules in Wales are different. Okay, Lake District here I come! As in a post above - it is possible that when the 50 pages of detail come out, there may be detail such as "the 'able to drive for leisure) may well be caveated by a 'reasonable distance', or 'to a local park/facility' ........ which would fit with being able to do solitary (or household) sporting pursuits like golf. fishing, tennis etc. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouser Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Farmboy91 said: And Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden says sports like golf, basketball, tennis and fishing will now be possible for people in the same household. No shooting? 😂 What if you shoot on a golf coarse??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, scouser said: What if you shoot on a golf coarse??? That can only help with the social distancing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, scouser said: What if you shoot on a golf coarse??? hello, i would presume you would revert back to shooting after dark, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Farmboy91 said: And Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden says sports like golf, basketball, tennis and fishing will now be possible for people in the same household. No shooting? 😂 No mention of croquet either, damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robden Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 As an aside, what about swimming in a pool with all that chemically treated water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted May 11, 2020 Report Share Posted May 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, toontastic said: No mention of croquet either, damn or Nur& Spell ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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