Retsdon Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown It'll be interesting to see what happens with this if it turns out to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 WAS seen while having symptoms when you gotta go you gotta go and he’s GOT to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Every politician has done something not quite right, some of them have embezzled , obtained monies my means of fraud , took us into wars that have led to where we are now with terrorism, had alter egos and names such as Miranda , hidden from the public the truth about grooming gangs but on this occasion one of them broke "Guidelines" and all of a sudden he is "in the soup" and "got to go" pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 of coarse he’s not going that would be applying the rules to everyone in a fair and just manner perish the thought lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 44 minutes ago, sportsbob said: Every politician has done something not quite right, some of them have embezzled , obtained monies my means of fraud , took us into wars that have led to where we are now with terrorism, had alter egos and names such as Miranda , hidden from the public the truth about grooming gangs but on this occasion one of them broke "Guidelines" and all of a sudden he is "in the soup" and "got to go" pathetic. It is a report from The Guardian , what do you expect. They couldn't give a positive report if they tried. Pathetic excuse for a newspaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Walker570 said: It is a report from The Guardian , what do you expect. They couldn't give a positive report if they tried. Pathetic excuse for a newspaper. That is my opinion of the guardian and its reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted May 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, sportsbob said: but on this occasion one of them broke "Guidelines" Like Ferguson? Not that he's a politician. But Matt Hancock said he'd 'back any police action' against Ferguson for breaking the lockdown. Or Scotland's chief medical officer? Forced to resign. Of course, its nonsense that any capable person should be forced to resign but there's been a precedent set already. I don't care less either way. I just said it would be interesting. Anyway , every other paper in the country now has it as headline news...funny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) I think he's a vile article. But I also think that there's too many of these leaks by "celebrity coppers" and it needs to stop. There was no arrest, no charge, nothing. Just words of advice. Much as I think that the political health of the nation would be better without this guttersnipe I think that it is whoever leaked this incident is the one that should now be held to account not Mr Cummings over what should have been a closed matter. Edited May 22, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yes lots of misinformation and over reaction from all sides, a guideline is just that and as for driving to your second home for lockdown then why not I know I would have if I were in there position. Just a hours drive down the road from me is Cornwall and some of them are bleating about people going there to second homes for lockdown but the same people are benefiting from the council tax paid on these homes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted May 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8249237/Dominic-Cummings-lifts-lid-isolation-wife-young-son-ill-coronavirus.html From back in April. It seems they concocted a whole false story about him being bed-ridden in London. And not just the Cummings's, but Number 10 also was putting out statements about how he was working from home. So either Cummings was lying to his employers as well, or the government was conniving in his lies to the press and public. This takes it a bit if a step up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Or maybe his parents were providing child care for his son whilst they isolated from his wife? Very one sided and take of calls to resign with little meat on the bones. Typical lefty paper. They would call for his resignation if he was seen walking on cracks in the pavement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Quote They would call for his resignation if he was seen walking on cracks in the pavement. An arrestable offence according to Constable Savage - almost on a par with having an offensive wife and wearing a loud check shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted May 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 hours ago, GingerCat said: Or maybe his parents were providing child care for his son whilst they isolated from his wife? Very probably they were. But what's your point? His motive for going has absolutely zilch to do with Downing Street conniving in the breakdown of the lockdown and then being party to an agreement to actively and deliberately mislead the country. That he got in his car and drove isn't the issue anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 Boris will have to show if he has any strength. If this had come out a few weeks ago it would have been curtains but I believe the public mood has moved away from witch hunts. He should go but almost certainly will not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 Honourable men resign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Honourable men resign True, but honourable men can also forgive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) IF he broke the law he should resign ....... or failing that - be sacked. IF this proves a 'witch hunt' promoted by leaked stories and he didn't break the law, then there is no reason for him to resign. On a side note - the continual leaks coming from various people in authority needs to be sorted out. If you hold an official position, then whatever your personal thoughts and feelings - you should do your job without leaking. If your personal thoughts and feelings are in conflict with your role - then you need to change jobs. No one can work effectively like that. Edited May 23, 2020 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Retsdon said: Very probably they were. But what's your point? His motive for going has absolutely zilch to do with Downing Street conniving in the breakdown of the lockdown and then being party to an agreement to actively and deliberately mislead the country. That he got in his car and drove isn't the issue anymore. Perhaps because they knew he did nothing unlawful and there would be plenty of dimwits waiting to vilify him for it if they openly announced it. 10 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: IF he broke the law he should resign ....... or failing that - be sacked. He broke no Law he simply didn`t follow a guideline. Edited May 23, 2020 by sportsbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, sportsbob said: Perhaps because they knew he did nothing unlawful and there would be plenty of dimwits waiting to vilify him for it if they openly announced it. He broke no Law he simply didn`t follow a guideline. is the CORRECT answer! Another complete non-story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, sportsbob said: He broke no Law he simply didn`t follow a guideline. IF that is the case - then in my view he (and Johnson) are free to do as they wish - i.e. if he wants to stay on - he should do so if Johnson agrees. I have to admit I'm not clear on where 'guidance' ends and 'law' begins as Parliament did pass so emergency legislation (which enables the ability to fine etc.). I can't say that doing what he apparently did it shows good judgement, but if both he and his wife were ill, then I guess your judgement isn't at its best (and so neither would be your ability to 'work from home' or drive 250 miles). It is all a bit 'murky'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) Personally i would like Cummings to stay on and keep advising the PM. He might even suggest the BBC should go! Now that fool Blackford is on the BBC saying it is a huge story! Edited May 23, 2020 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: Personally i would like Cummings to stay on and keep advising the PM. He might even suggest the BBC should go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 59 minutes ago, sportsbob said: He broke no Law he simply didn`t follow a guideline So should we all disregard the guidelines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 39 minutes ago, henry d said: So should we all disregard the guidelines? Would it not be how we interpreted the guidelines , all laws are never clear cut , they are up for interpretation . Those making the laws are covering there own backside by doing it that way . And how lawyers make a great living 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted May 23, 2020 Report Share Posted May 23, 2020 57 minutes ago, henry d said: So should we all disregard the guidelines? That is not my decision to make nor is it yours so asking the question is nothing more than trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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