Cummings in the soup?

[Danger-Mouse]

52 minutes ago, Scully said:

I’m not sure it has ever been about the trip; the man has created more enemies than is good for anyone. 
He has played right into the hands of all of those who dislike what he stands for, and if it hadn’t been the trip it would have eventually been something else. The knives were already out, they just needed a cause. 
 

He is the arch-enemy of the Remainer Media. The Architect of Brexit. He must be destroyed!

Quite funny how he has dismantled them with a simple press conference.

Starmer can't say a thing. He has too many similar skeletons in his own party's closet.

Well played D.C.

[Scully]

13 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

I don't think Johnson is firing on all cylinders (yet) since his illness.  People take time to recover from things like 'flu.  This is said to be worse if you get it badly - as he obviously did.

My OH  has said this also. She doesn’t think he looks 100% at all yet. 

[lancer425]

4 hours ago, mudpatten said:

No, but I have been drinking heavily!

 

Careful drink enough water it will kill you. stick to Whiskey stay safe.

[Raja Clavata]

14 minutes ago, Mr_Nobody said:

He is the arch-enemy of the Remainer Media. The Architect of Brexit. He must be destroyed!

Quite funny how he has dismantled them with a simple press conference.

Starmer can't say a thing. He has too many similar skeletons in his own party's closet.

Well played D.C.

Lol

[grrclark]

26 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

I don't think Johnson is firing on all cylinders (yet) since his illness.  People take time to recover from things like 'flu.  This is said to be worse if you get it badly - as he obviously did.

All the more reason why the cabinet needs to rally round and ensure he is making the right call.

[The Heron]

He absolutely ****** on the media Klussenberg Preston silver and lowly bronze at best Preston had as much as an impact as a needle in in a crocodiles bottom the media frenzy that has followed this story was unbelievable so let it go it is now a non story. 

[lancer425]

CRISIS WHAT CRISIS.

 

 

Edited May 25, 2020 by lancer425

[Newbie to this]

Hypocrisy

 

 

Edited May 25, 2020 by Newbie to this

[lancer425]

5 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:

Hypocrisy

 

 

Now if any law has been broken its right there, they need fining every last one of them. that is irresponsible.

[oowee]

1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said:

I don't think Johnson is firing on all cylinders (yet) since his illness.  People take time to recover from things like 'flu.  This is said to be worse if you get it badly - as he obviously did.

How many cylinders does he have? Physicaly that may be true but its his thought process that is in question. 

Borris is a party boy that will flip flop for poularism without the staying power for a fight or a detailed argument. What he is is a charismatic chancer, that can rally and cajole a motley band into action. Put him on the spot, and he will crumble like a bad cheese.  With this story he is exposed. He needs DC for the creative thought that he is not going to get from his cabinet.

[lancer425]

5 minutes ago, oowee said:

How many cylinders does he have? Physicaly that may be true but its his thought process that is in question. 

Borris is a party boy that will flip flop for poularism without the staying power for a fight or a detailed argument. What he is is a charismatic chancer, that can rally and cajole a motley band into action. Put him on the spot, and he will crumble like a bad cheese.  With this story he is exposed. He needs DC for the creative thought that he is not going to get from his cabinet.

Boris Johnson is a good minister. We would be in dire straights without him. 

Talking of which. Lets  make some use from this non thread about a non story.

I always liked Tunnel of love. Reminds me of the early 80s and an old 3 litre capri i had.

 

[clangerman]

didn’t sound like the local peasants think it’s a non story i can tell you most think they both need stringing up not had a lynching before it’s always boring murders bless em lol 

[lancer425]

9 minutes ago, clangerman said:

didn’t sound like the local peasants think it’s a non story i can tell you most think they both need stringing up not had a lynching before it’s always boring murders bless em lol 

Peasants what peasants . ?

[Gordon R]

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 they both need stringing up not had a lynching before

Brilliant - forget the trial, forget that no law has been broken - let's move straight to a hanging. That is what is wrong with this country - too many people easily manipulated by the media.

PS - lancer425 - I prefer Crime of the century.

 

Edited May 25, 2020 by Gordon R

[clangerman]

Just now, lancer425 said:

Peasants what peasants . ?

the locals of coarse but not in a rude way i like them take no nonsense or bs from anyone my kind of people 

[lancer425]

1 minute ago, clangerman said:

the locals of coarse but not in a rude way i like them take no nonsense or bs from anyone my kind of people 

Well that’s just  BS .  Back to an interlude.

 CCWR.

 

[clangerman]

2 minutes ago, lancer425 said:

Well that’s just  BS .  Back to an interlude.

 CCWR.

 

if you think the locals not taking bs is BS your more than welcome to tell them be my guest lol

[lancer425]

4 minutes ago, clangerman said:

if you think the locals not taking bs is BS your more than welcome to tell them be my guest lol

R U coming round the bend or already there.

 

[AVB]

I get a sense that DC’s statement today has taken the wind out of his enemies sails. I could be wrong and they could just be regrouping for round two but it seems to have dropped down from the top of the news outlets pages. 
Our Saudi correspondent needs to rethink his strategy to mobilise them again. 

[enfieldspares]

6 hours ago, Retsdon said:

So if you thought your eyesight might have gone a bit wonky, you'd test it by putting your wife and child in the car and taking them for a drive to a local castle?  Perfectly normal.

In the English Midlands we do but nothing else to check our seeing abilities rather than simply stand outside our houses and try and read the customary car number plate seventy-five feet distant.

On Bank Holidays the A38 off the M6 at Spaghetti Junction is so nose to tail with car drivers self administering themselves eye tests that it's now called the Aston Vision Expressway.

Edited May 26, 2020 by enfieldspares

[Dave-G]

7 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Less than normal then?

Nor the French government being complicit in protecting illegal migrants clearly overfilling inflatable dingy's that is so simple to confirm by taking a look.

[Retsdon]

I never realized that Cummings was giving that presser from the Rose Garden at  Number 10. Never mind what he said, where he said it the real story.

It explains why it was never on the cards that  either Johnson would sack him or that Cummings would resign, no matter what he might have done.

 

[JohnfromUK]

7 hours ago, Gordon R said:

too many people easily manipulated by the media.

Trial by media.  Saves all your legal expenses.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

3 hours ago, Retsdon said:

I never realized that Cummings was giving that presser from the Rose Garden at  Number 10. Never mind what he said, where he said it the real story.

It explains why it was never on the cards that  either Johnson would sack him or that Cummings would resign, no matter what he might have done.

Exactly.

5 hours ago, Dave-G said:

Nor the French government being complicit in protecting illegal migrants clearly overfilling inflatable dingy's that is so simple to confirm by taking a look.

Yes that is desperately in need of investigation.

[JohnfromUK]

4 hours ago, Retsdon said:

It explains why it was never on the cards that  either Johnson would sack him or that Cummings would resign, no matter what he might have done.

What has he done? 

• Has he broken the law? -  Apparently not
• Has he behaved with good intention?  - I think there is every reason to believe he did
• Has he behaved as many would? - Yes
• Was it unwise in his position? - Yes (because of his high public profile)
• Was anyone directly put as risk as a result of his action?  - Almost certainly from what we now know, no.
• Would it have happened if he wasn't already being mobbed as a result of adverse press agitation leading to security worries for him and his family - No - probably not

So overall, he has behaved unwisely, but not unsafely and and critically has not broken the law.

The "fuss" is that its going to make it much harder to maintain a good lockdown discipline in the general public overall because of his actions ............ but just think about this;

If the press hadn't agitated to the extent that his security was threatened and then made such a huge mountain out of the molehill of an unelected paid advisor behaving unwisely - there would have been no risk to the public lockdown discipline.  The responsibility for that part of it rests almost wholly with the irresponsibility of the press.