harrycatcat1 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) May I ask any driving instructors on here do the pupils get taught to approach a junction at full speed then slam the brakes on at the last minute at the same time as indicating? The amount of times I have seen this is too much of a coincidence, surely? Edited November 25, 2020 by harrycatcat1 Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 I see mostly the exact opposite... learners slowing from 30mph to around 10mph anywhere from 200 yards from a junction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 worst one is when they stall pulling away at traffic lights by time they get going it’s red again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonker Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 When us dinosaurs were taught to drive, it was use the engine revs and gears to slow down. Now you have a go pedal and a stop pedal and the more you press either of them affects the speed you go or stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, clangerman said: worst one is when they stall pulling away at traffic lights by time they get going it’s red again +1 Edited November 25, 2020 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 50 minutes ago, tonker said: When us dinosaurs were taught to drive, it was use the engine revs and gears to slow down. Now you have a go pedal and a stop pedal and the more you press either of them affects the speed you go or stop. It does appear very little 'acceleration sense' is taught these days. It was a mantra that brake pads are cheaper than gearboxes at training college but you where expected to have already read the road way ahead and adjusted your speed to accomodate. Forward observations was a large part of the driver training when I was at Stafford Police Training and that is why a large part of your training and the hour long test involved commentary on what you could see and what you would do about it. You should always be wanting to be able to see around that next bend. That car and motorcyle course/s has saved my life many times over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, harrycatcat1 said: May I ask any driving instructors on here do the pupils get taught to approach a junction at full speed then slam the brakes on at the last minute at the same time as indicating? The amount of times I have seen this is too much of a coincidence, surely? Am i correct in thinking its drivers who have passed their test you are talking about?. Once people have passed their test its a case of YIPPEE LETS GO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opossum Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 My favourite are the ones that don't indicate coming up to a junction/roundabout then as they're turning they flip the indicator on. I bet they pat themselves on the back thinking they're a good driver... I scream internally more at these people than the ones who don't even bother indicating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonker Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Walker570 said: It does appear very little 'acceleration sense' is taught these days. It was a mantra that brake pads are cheaper than gearboxes at training college but you where expected to have already read the road way ahead and adjusted your speed to accomodate. Forward observations was a large part of the driver training when I was at Stafford Police Training and that is why a large part of your training and the hour long test involved commentary on what you could see and what you would do about it. You should always be wanting to be able to see around that next bend. That car and motorcyle course/s has saved my life many times over the years. That's very similar to the defensive riding we are taught when riding a bike. on a bit from the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 When I learnt a lad I went to school with failed around the same time I passed for driving to slowly as he was doing 45 in a national speed limit so ie not observing the road signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, peck said: Am i correct in thinking its drivers who have passed their test you are talking about?. Yes once they have passed their test. 7 minutes ago, Opossum said: My favourite are the ones that don't indicate coming up to a junction/roundabout then as they're turning they flip the indicator on. I bet they pat themselves on the back thinking they're a good driver... I scream internally more at these people than the ones who don't even bother indicating Yes that's another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 I am sure the greatest danger on the roads today is from people on mobile phones. I made a short 4 mile journey yesterday both on country roads and main A road and saw three vehicles ahead of me who obviously where on phones, varing speed for no reason, braking for no reason and wandering all over the carriageway. Two vans and a car. Cannot believe three drunks at 8am but driving that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Walker570 said: It does appear very little 'acceleration sense' is taught these days. It was a mantra that brake pads are cheaper than gearboxes at training college but you where expected to have already read the road way ahead and adjusted your speed to accomodate. Forward observations was a large part of the driver training when I was at Stafford Police Training and that is why a large part of your training and the hour long test involved commentary on what you could see and what you would do about it. You should always be wanting to be able to see around that next bend. That car and motorcyle course/s has saved my life many times over the years. That what you had to do for the Advanced driving test. But my pet hate is not indicating at roundabouts, then taking the 1st exit. But then I can't talk as I am now for the 1st time in over 35 years a criminal, been caught for speeding on a slip road onto the A38. WHY DIDN'T THEY PUT A "T" JUNCTION THERE INSTEAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Dougy said: That what you had to do for the Advanced driving test. But my pet hate is not indicating at roundabouts, then taking the 1st exit. But then I can't talk as I am now for the 1st time in over 35 years a criminal, been caught for speeding on a slip road onto the A38. WHY DIDN'T THEY PUT A "T" JUNCTION THERE INSTEAD. My advanced instructor always said to be a few miles faster than the intervening traffic as you moved from slip road to motorway. How often do you see drivers almost come to a stop . Excess speed on a slip road ? Camera or mobile ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 I don't drive a Farrari,, 200yds before the A38 and traffic speed an average of 70mph i was caught doing 38 in a 30. It is what it is. 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTaylor91 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 My other half very rarely indicates and it drives me insane. In her words “it’s nobody’s business where she is going” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, JTaylor91 said: My other half very rarely indicates and it drives me insane. In her words “it’s nobody’s business where she is going” 😅😅😅😅😅love it 😅😅😅. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 Quote My advanced instructor always said to be a few miles faster than the intervening traffic as you moved from slip road to motorway. How often do you see drivers almost come to a stop . Chose your slip road lane depending on whether to were travelling uphill or down. Look over your shoulder - life saver. Three stage braking. On a right hand bend, tuck into the left of the lane. On a left hand bend, keep over to the right - to see further. Gears for go, brakes for slow. The system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 hours ago, harrycatcat1 said: May I ask any driving instructors on here do the pupils get taught to approach a junction at full speed then slam the brakes on at the last minute at the same time as indicating? The amount of times I have seen this is too much of a coincidence, surely? No they are not taught to indicate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, DUNKS said: No they are not taught to indicate! We all know these are not fitted on BMW and Audi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, harrycatcat1 said: Yes once they have passed their test. So it’s nothing to do with driving instructors then, just drivers in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkin Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Walker570 said: I am sure the greatest danger on the roads today is from people on mobile phones. I made a short 4 mile journey yesterday both on country roads and main A road and saw three vehicles ahead of me who obviously where on phones, varing speed for no reason, braking for no reason and wandering all over the carriageway. Two vans and a car. Cannot believe three drunks at 8am but driving that way. Me and you would get along fine I think the same they can,t be drunk that early in the morning ? ,But to be honest they drive as if drink or drugs is in the blood stream .don't seem to matter if it's a bicycle or 40 tonner you have got to be on the phone .I just like sitting 25 yards from the squirrel feeder with the phone turned off Happy days every body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Scully said: So it’s nothing to do with driving instructors then, just drivers in general. It is if that's how they have been taught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, harrycatcat1 said: It is if that's how they have been taught. But no driving instructor teaches that for the simple fact the learner wouldn’t pass their test if they drive like that in their test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) Let me rephrase the question, some folk when driving along a main road, they stamp on the brakes and indicate when they want to turn left or right off the main road. Are they taught to do this or are they taught to give plenty of notice of a manoeuvre before braking? Edited November 25, 2020 by harrycatcat1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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