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8 minutes ago, KB1 said:

You get my vote, just for that bit………...

🙂 Thanks, just a few more votes needed! 😀
I once heard of a ‘keeper local to me I think, who whilst showing around a young lad after an interview for the position of under keeper, didn’t give him the job because he spat continually. Can’t say I blame him. 

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19 minutes ago, Scully said:

🙂 Thanks, just a few more votes needed! 😀
I once heard of a ‘keeper local to me I think, who whilst showing around a young lad after an interview for the position of under keeper, didn’t give him the job because he spat continually. Can’t say I blame him. 

On a job interview? I'm amazed he got to the end of it. 

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47 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said:

It's a bizarre and complicated lockdown when both stories can seem equally plausible and implausible at the same time - but for only one of them to be true...

There can be only one, maybe?

29 minutes ago, KB1 said:

I think I witnessed that travelling from Carlisle into Scotland this morning…………. The stopping bit, at least.

 

Razor wire, dogs and machine guns?

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45 minutes ago, Mice! said:

There can be only one, maybe?

Razor wire, dogs and machine guns?

I must have missed those…..😬  It was kind of strange.  I passed the Police car (Doing 73mph) and within a minute they were coming up behind me with the lights on, and then overtook me and got behind a slower car in the inside lane and pulled him/her over.  A smallish car that looked to be in decent condition and certainly wasn't speeding (Unless it was previously)…….. I thought, "I wonder if they've been running plates on cars from further down England?"   Or maybe I'm becoming a tin foil hat wearer….🤪

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12 hours ago, Walker570 said:

It really has not yet sunk in has it, it will NOT go away.  Just book your jab and take care up and untill your sorted.  Polio, TB, etc etc., been there done that BUT the government never locked us up and turned the police on us back then.

Agreed but I suspect the difference may well be that now its important to cover up the poor performances of our covertly privatised NHS? Politicians gave it and Politicians will take it away, into friends back pockets no doubt?

I suspect we all know plenty of NHS staff that would away by lunch time if they could bring utterly sick of political tampering?

Seemingly we are now reaping the rewards of lack of any requirement for personal responsibility and rampant selfishness?

12 hours ago, clangerman said:

with the police managing to put three speed vans out locally last few days they can’t be that concerned with enforcement 

Over run with them here too,

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16 hours ago, AVB said:

I bet a number on here must be knocking one out at the thought of it and hoping that the army get brought in to shoot people on sight. 

Well if people listened to what the government is asking of them there wouldn't be any need for more restrictions you can only blame yourselves 

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18 minutes ago, Rim Fire said:

Well if people listened to what the government is asking of them there wouldn't be any need for more restrictions you can only blame yourselves 

It really isn't.

This asinine "Do as you're told, it's for your own good" might work on your 5 year old, but is really not good enough for functioning adults. 

The virus is airborne, if it is really as infectious as we're told, the entire population would have to live in sterile bubbles.

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1 hour ago, udderlyoffroad said:

It really isn't.

This asinine "Do as you're told, it's for your own good" might work on your 5 year old, but is really not good enough for functioning adults. 

The virus is airborne, if it is really as infectious as we're told, the entire population would have to live in sterile bubbles.

Yes i agree but if you don't try and eradicate it its not going to eradicate its self there is a vaccine  now that will help provide some immunity so hopefully you wont die if people just give it a little more time. There is light at the end of the tunnel 

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1 minute ago, AVB said:

‘Local’ is subjective. Always has been.

Local can mean;

  • A short distance
  • The nearest of several similar alternatives/options

In a town/city, local grocery store/supermarket stores may have several choices within say 2 or 3 miles.  In the country, the nearest may be possibly as much as 10 miles for a supermarket.

My understanding is that to 'shop locally' I should either use the small and quite limited nearest shop (two available each about 1.5 miles) - or where I need a wider range of things, the nearest supermarket (choice of 3 available within 5 or 6 miles).

I should not go to a supermarket say 15 miles away just because I happen to prefer that one to the many nearer choices.

 

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1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said:

Local can mean;

  • A short distance
  • The nearest of several similar alternatives/options

In a town/city, local grocery store/supermarket stores may have several choices within say 2 or 3 miles.  In the country, the nearest may be possibly as much as 10 miles for a supermarket.

My understanding is that to 'shop locally' I should either use the small and quite limited nearest shop (two available each about 1.5 miles) - or where I need a wider range of things, the nearest supermarket (choice of 3 available within 5 or 6 miles).

I should not go to a supermarket say 15 miles away just because I happen to prefer that one to the many nearer choices.

 

In your opinion. A mate of mine goes for a ‘local’ bike ride that is about 100 miles. 
 

The fact is there is no definition of local that      limits you to X miles. Which is why the fines the police give people for exercising not locally are thrown out on appeal or rescinded. It’s down to people to exercise their own judgment which most do quite sensibly. However some people love rules that are very prescriptive. 
 

 

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15 minutes ago, AVB said:

In your opinion.

I would say in any 'reasonable opinion'. 

Most 'reasonable opinions' would not regard 100 miles as 'local' (unless you happen to live in the Australian outback!)

17 minutes ago, AVB said:

The fact is there is no definition of local that      limits you to X miles.

No - and I agree that you can't - because what is local in commuter land will not be the same as local in remote parts of the countryside ....... which is why I tried to offer a 'reasonable opinion' 9 which granted is my 'reasonable opinion'

20 minutes ago, AVB said:

However some people love rules that are very prescriptive.

Lawyers don't; a good living can be had from challenging or defending 'reasonable' - on which a lot of law is judged.

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I couldn’t care less what Boris has done, my only gripe is that he has played right into the hands of those who are simply out to wag a finger and score points.

My local shop/postoffice is 4 miles away, but that doesn’t prevent me from driving past it to go to my nearest supermarket 9 miles away. 

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8 minutes ago, Scully said:

My local shop/postoffice is 4 miles away, but that doesn’t prevent me from driving past it to go to my nearest supermarket 9 miles away.

Seems entirely reasonable to me.  Unreasonable would be to drive past several nearer similar supermarkets just to get to one you simply 'prefer'.

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16 minutes ago, Scully said:

I couldn’t care less what Boris has done, my only gripe is that he has played right into the hands of those who are simply out to wag a finger and score points.

My local shop/postoffice is 4 miles away, but that doesn’t prevent me from driving past it to go to my nearest supermarket 9 miles away. 

Similarly PO at about 1.5 k and supermarket  9k.

IMHO  I would consider 15k reasonable in a rural setting  and 10k urban.

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1 hour ago, AVB said:

In your opinion. A mate of mine goes for a ‘local’ bike ride that is about 100 miles. 

The Welsh "guidelines" actually stated that people could do this - Bike shops remain open as "essential". I couldn't buy baby clothes at one point but I could go and kit myself out in MAMIL Lycra!!

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35 minutes ago, clangerman said:

the fines are being squashed now because boris gump drove a 121 miles to our vaccination centre by no stretch of the imagination can that be called local or reasonable anyone doing less miles than gump won’t be paying now 

The cases were being squashed well before Boris was on official business to a vaccination centre. 

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