chrisjpainter Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 The Times is running an article that the French have been beaten to their own vaccine by the UK and are furious about it! for those that have a subscription, here's the link. France furious as Britain snatches Covid vaccine Valneva deal from under its nose | News | The Times For those that don't here are the sound bites: It seems Macron's annoyed because we paid for it first, so are going to get it first. It can also be made here, so it sort of makes sense, enraging them even more. The good news for Macron is he does seem to have united the country: The left, the right and the far right all hate him in equal measure now. The UK's managed to vaccinate more than 9 million more people than France and almost as many as the whole of the EU. Le Pen's quoted as saying, “We are above all paying for the abandonment of our sovereignty in favour of other emerging powers in globalisation.” The government's responded by saying it fully supports the company (Valneva), which rings a bit hollow given that the investment to do the vaccine research came from the UK. Our government stumped up €96 million immediately for it in the hope to get vaccines before the end of December. It's a risk for us, because it's not been approved yet, but if it is, it's money well spent. Once again, our current and future vaccine supply looks assured and once again, individual member states in the Bloc are facing shortfalls. It beggars belief that given these shortfalls and the slowness of the vaccine roll out, that they're still refusing to give the AZ vaccine to the over 65's, despite no scientific basis for that. Still. If the French are angry at us, we must be doing something right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 It's fantastic news at the end of the withdrawal agreement ... the timing couldn't be better. Initial stories on how we wouldn't get drugs ... now we've an excess !! Our cousins on all sides across the water would have loved to see us flounder after the split .. now they're looking at us wondering if we were right all along. Hopefully this really seals the deal for open minded remainers who still had doubts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robden Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Wonder if we'll start seeing more jumpers from the EU sinking ship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 I really thought Le Penn would get in on the last French election; word is she’s the favourite for the re-run. If you were Italy why would you poke up with being the poop on the German and French shoe? Apparently most experts agreed that the EU would fail over the long term; like the death of certain sectors, maybe Covid will bring forward the death of the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Hello, France has a long way to catch up with covid vaccines, UK 10 million France 1.5 million, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Smokersmith said: It's fantastic news at the end of the withdrawal agreement ... the timing couldn't be better. Initial stories on how we wouldn't get drugs ... now we've an excess !! Our cousins on all sides across the water would have loved to see us flounder after the split .. now they're looking at us wondering if we were right all along. Hopefully this really seals the deal for open minded remainers who still had doubts. I've always been that weird frog, the Eurosceptic Remainer. What the pandemic has done is shown how spectacularly bad the whole system can go. When it works, it works really well, but when it doesn't, it's a disaster! 27 nations all pooling their resources together, should in theory, have given them a huge head start in creating and then replicating a vaccine. But the moment that failed and Pfizer and AZ got there first and got mass producing, it's descended into a free-for-all. Every country for itself and suddenly Germany cares far more about German lives than French lives or Belgian lives and so on. The pandemic notwithstanding, I'm still unsure we'll be better off outside the EU, particularly as we see how badly it's gone for fishing (but then we always knew it'd be the distraction thrown to the wolves). But right now, with the pandemic, I'm glad we're able to make decisions for ourselves and than benefit from them, then be tied up with Europe's little mess Edited February 5, 2021 by chrisjpainter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, chrisjpainter said: Every country for itself and suddenly Germany cares far more about German lives than French lives or Belgian lives Pretty sure europe has seen something like that before 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, France has a long way to catch up with covid vaccines, UK 10 million France 1.5 million, Yes and the ones they have done are all going to Civil Servants and essencial workers. Their priority is to protect the infrastructure apparently. That's not wrong, its just a different point of view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Yes and the ones they have done are all going to Civil Servants and essencial workers. Their priority is to protect the infrastructure apparently. That's not wrong, its just a different point of view Indeed it is, but they cannot moan about any other body as they were very slow off the mark and concentrated on a French vaccine which didn't work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, France has a long way to catch up with covid vaccines, UK 10 million France 1.5 million, Hello, well I have just recieved my NHS letter to book a vaccine, on line or 119, not being techy I tried to phone , lady working from home but the service when she went on for NHS details had crashed due to the 1000s trying to get jabs, will try weekend, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 More from The Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 apparently we have 400 million doses on order now................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 There's more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 i would dearly love to give the EU a damn good kicking in the goolies (after 50 years of been sucked dry by those bloody leeches......). when they are down and out........... but being British...i would love also,to hold out the hand of friendship and give help where we can......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, ditchman said: i would dearly love to give the EU a damn good kicking in the goolies (after 50 years of been sucked dry by those bloody leeches......). when they are down and out........... but being British...i would love also,to hold out the hand of friendship and give help where we can......... Kick them in the balls then give them a hand back to their feet 🤷♂️🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 21 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, well I have just recieved my NHS letter to book a vaccine, on line or 119, not being techy I tried to phone , lady working from home but the service when she went on for NHS details had crashed due to the 1000s trying to get jabs, will try weekend, The system is easy on line, even my wife managed to book hers without me doing it for her. 😳 10 hours ago, ditchman said: but being British...i would love also,to hold out the hand of friendship and give help where we can......... At the same time as getting them to give us free trade access with no border restrictions 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Fisheruk said: The system is easy on line, even my wife managed to book hers without me doing it for her. 😳 Hello, I was chatting to a chap I know lives local and online could only offer a jab 30 miles away 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, I was chatting to a chap I know lives local and online could only offer a jab 30 miles away 🤔 We had multiple choices, just picked the one most suitable. We chose one near the local Costco, so I could pop in and do the shop. Two birds with one stone. 👍We arrived 15 minutes early, fellow came out whilst we were sitting in the car and we explained we were early and just waiting. He said no problem just come in. She was out in 20 minutes! First class service. Frankly if you live out in the sticks a 30 mile journey is well worth it to get the protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 33 minutes ago, Fisheruk said: We had multiple choices, just picked the one most suitable. We chose one near the local Costco, so I could pop in and do the shop. Two birds with one stone. 👍We arrived 15 minutes early, fellow came out whilst we were sitting in the car and we explained we were early and just waiting. He said no problem just come in. She was out in 20 minutes! First class service. Frankly if you live out in the sticks a 30 mile journey is well worth it to get the protection. I know the stories of people in Southern England being offered hospital visits or tests etc in North of England etc was ridiculous but driving a journey like 30 miles, whilst inconvenient, is well worth it for such a major event. People would think nothing of driving 30 miles to go on a jolly or a day out but want the vaccine, which has had numerous logistical challenges to be delivered onto their door step. The best thing is, for most people, it has been almost on their doorstep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Lloyd90 said: I know the stories of people in Southern England being offered hospital visits or tests etc in North of England etc was ridiculous but driving a journey like 30 miles, whilst inconvenient, is well worth it for such a major event. People would think nothing of driving 30 miles to go on a jolly or a day out but want the vaccine, which has had numerous logistical challenges to be delivered onto their door step. The best thing is, for most people, it has been almost on their doorstep! Yes, I had mine 4 weeks ago in the next village. Still need to be careful, but great peace of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) Now where are all the patronising remainiacs who told us we were too uneducated to understand that remaining in the EU was the only sensible option or face doom eternal. They've gone very quiet🤔🤣 Edited February 17, 2021 by 12gauge82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Now where are all the patronising remainiacs who told us we were too uneducated to understand that remaining in the EU was the only sensible option or face doom eternal. They've gone very quiet🤔🤣 There is a certain irony in your post re. patronising. Not for the first time, I would suggest that, as far as I'm aware the vast majority of us Remainers have moved on. The EU has made a series of mistakes over the COVID vaccine and the UK has done a great job. If you wish to proliferate this notion of hostility to the EU and analogy to war then i guess UK PLC won the COVID vaccine battle, 1-0 to us, chapeau and all that. Have we won the "war" though, surely it would only be the folly of a desperate Brexitard to claim the COVID vaccine debacle of the EU fully vindicates Brexit. Not that vindicating Brexit matters, we've left, everybody I know has moved on, well all the Remainers anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Raja Clavata said: There is a certain irony in your post re. patronising. Not for the first time, I would suggest that, as far as I'm aware the vast majority of us Remainers have moved on. The EU has made a series of mistakes over the COVID vaccine and the UK has done a great job. If you wish to proliferate this notion of hostility to the EU and analogy to war then i guess UK PLC won the COVID vaccine battle, 1-0 to us, chapeau and all that. Have we won the "war" though, surely it would only be the folly of a desperate Brexitard to claim the COVID vaccine debacle of the EU fully vindicates Brexit. Not that vindicating Brexit matters, we've left, everybody I know has moved on, well all the Remainers anyway... Please note I said remainiacs, not remainers. After four years of being called thick, racist, uneducated, little englander, ect, ect 😴. And being told daily of their guaranteed doom without any positives at all, it would just be nice to see some of the few who acted like that admit that they were maybe a bit wrong. Im certainly not including you in that category, you gave reasoned debate throughout that I actually quiet enjoyed 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 My Grandmother had a few words for a man like Macron..."All mouth and trousers". BUY BRITISH My wife picked up some veg today and swiftly put it back when she found it had come from France. Check the labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Much as I wanted us to leave the EU, I refuse to judge the people of Germany and France by idiots like Ursula von der Leyen or Macron. They are better than that, just as the Scots are hardly well represented by Jimmy Krankie. Before we get smug, we nearly ended up with Corbyn and Abbott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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