B725 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 What with the huge rise in gas price's is it now not time to start fracking for gas and cheaper energy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 That would be the sensible solution, but where is there any common sense nowadays (apart from PW 😁) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 if they fracked for ...and produced gas it would still go onto the market at the same price..... think one of the big fracking companies has connections to the house of lords ...Qudrilla.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, ditchman said: If they fracked for ...and produced gas it would still go onto the market at the same price..... Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, B725 said: What with the huge rise in gas price's is it now not time to start fracking for gas and cheaper energy? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, B725 said: What with the huge rise in gas price's is it now not time to start fracking for gas and cheaper energy? No, the time to start was years ago. Edited October 9, 2021 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 They did make a start but it all got suspended I think they need to look at it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 I think the government needs to massively invest in an alternative. Gas prices will always be liable to wild fluctuations and we will always be at the mercy of Russia or others blocking supply as fracking alone will not provide all the gas we need. Like many industries in this country, anything essential should be where possible, produced in country, providing good jobs for British workers and protecting the UK from bully boy tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 I am 100% anti wind power, solar power and all the rest of these renewables. Save for the fact that it will end the political leverage it gives to Putin and to the loathsome Saudi Arabian ruling dynasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkom Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: to the loathsome Saudi Arabian ruling dynasty. er.....just remind me..... how did Blair's attempt at regime overthrow go in Iraq...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 47 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: I am 100% anti wind power, solar power and all the rest of these renewables. Save for the fact that it will end the political leverage it gives to Putin and to the loathsome Saudi Arabian ruling dynasty. Solar on residential property is a brilliant idea, its definitely not the only solution but could form a brilliant part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Solar on residential property is a brilliant idea, its definitely not the only solution but could form a brilliant part of it. I've just looked at solar pv at home I sent the spec to an M&E designer friend of mine, and as the export funding is so low it would not be cost effective for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, B725 said: They did make a start but it all got suspended I think they need to look at it again. We also need to get our nuclear power capability into full swing. Edited October 9, 2021 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Fracking would only supply gas at the margins i.e. at 5% of what we use annually, when we import over 40% of our gas at present. The answer is being self sufficient in energy and ideally producing a surplus, therefore local prices can be kept low. Molten Salt Nuclear reactors (80% electrical base load) and renewables (20%) are the way forward, what's left of the UK's coal, gas and oil best kept for manufacturing where they are very difficult to substitute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Hello, have a look on the problems made in the USA with fracking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redial Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 What chance of just reducing the VAT on gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, have a look on the problems made in the USA with fracking Thing's have moved on a long way since the early days of fracking I've not seen or heard of problems lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, harkom said: er.....just remind me..... how did Blair's attempt at regime overthrow go in Iraq...? great success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Quote Molten Salt Nuclear reactors I had to Google it. A decent read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gordon R said: I had to Google it. A decent read. Known tech, inherently safe, highly efficient,available in modular form but not used as does not produce weapons grade material Edited October 9, 2021 by Stonepark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 With all this news on Cows and their wind i'm amazed nobody has thought of bagging that at source. I'm sure its possible to strap a gas bottle or 2 on the backs of cows with some device to extract the gas just before it exits where it smells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 3 hours ago, B725 said: What with the huge rise in gas price's is it now not time to start fracking for gas and cheaper energy? Hell yeah. My old man is old enough to have seen the Battle of Britain as an evacuated child, and he always said that a country needs to be able to arm itself and feed itself. We can add ‘energy’ to that list and the predictions are according to the press we’re about to be reminded that our food supply chain isn’t as robust as it should be. 2 hours ago, enfieldspares said: I am 100% anti wind power, solar power and all the rest of these renewables. Save for the fact that it will end the political leverage it gives to Putin and to the loathsome Saudi Arabian ruling dynasty. Couldn’t agree more. We need small scale nuclear and over multiple sites but they will take a decade plus to come on line and current lunacy suggests that we should be getting the Chinese to build them for us. ***** now to fill the gap. 1 hour ago, redial said: What chance of just reducing the VAT on gas. And that will open a budget deficit somewhere else and a new / different tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, harkom said: er.....just remind me..... how did Blair's attempt at regime overthrow go in Iraq...? Tony Liar, Edited October 9, 2021 by Centrepin Grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratchers Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Why can't they put pv's on all new builds, surely the small cost compared to buying a new house is insignificant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, ratchers said: Why can't they put pv's on all new builds, surely the small cost compared to buying a new house is insignificant. Indeed. All new cars have seat belts. All passenger liners have lifeboats. Make a thing mandatory and all must do it by law that cost comes out of the profits elsewise your price is no longer at a desirable price point. The Swiss did it with new build requiring nuclear bunkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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