Vince Green Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Boybrit said: Have interpreters at Dover full time to identify their origins and a "RyanJet" ferry service running daily from a reconstituted Manston airport back to their original countries, works out at the same cost as staying in Hyatt hotels for a few months. Foil hat is being woven as I type. That's why they throw away their passports so there is no proof of their nationality. and all claim to be gay. Unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 I bet the illegal immigrants won't be bothered about the energy crisis like the residents on low incomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said: I bet the illegal immigrants won't be bothered about the energy crisis like the residents on low incomes. Possibly, all will be provided? Politicians seem determined to become more un-electable by the day? Why can't the money be turned off, it seems it can for the contributors who support the system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 over 900 saturday ..............just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 5 hours ago, ditchman said: over 900 saturday ..............just sayin That's a Preti mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, old man said: That's a Preti mess? yup............wonder what the score will be today................ Edited August 29, 2022 by ditchman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 Just a thought here with what this is costing surely the government buying the facility that makes the rubber boats and supplies the engines would make sense they could then just not sell them boats or close the factory as it is someone/organisation must be buying a dozen boats a day wouldn’t be hard to work out who the smugglers were surely I understand it’s not a perfect solution but could be deemed as a starting point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 I feel most of us are thinking of giving up on this, which is exactly what the authorities want? An easy way to achieve an aim with no effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, old man said: I feel most of us are thinking of giving up on this, which is exactly what the authorities want? An easy way to achieve an aim with no effort? I don't think it is what the government want but it is what the civil servants want - a job creation scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 10 hours ago, old man said: Politicians seem determined to become more un-electable by the day? Are they even bothered about such things , it's been a long time , certainly not in my adult life, where a government has radically changed something for the better. Blair promised all sorts , delivered nothing but generation of migrats , legal and illegal, that have not changed Britain for the better. The tories simply continued blairs policies, and reluctantly gave us a form of brexit. Which changed virtually nothing either. When I was a young punk in the early 80s , I listened to an anarchist group called Crass, very anti political, and one of their many mantras was. Whoever you vote for, government wins. Understand one thing , our leaders do not have our best interests in mind or action. And there's nothing you can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 11 hours ago, Rewulf said: Are they even bothered about such things , it's been a long time , certainly not in my adult life, where a government has radically changed something for the better. Blair promised all sorts , delivered nothing but generation of migrats , legal and illegal, that have not changed Britain for the better. The tories simply continued blairs policies, and reluctantly gave us a form of brexit. Which changed virtually nothing either. When I was a young punk in the early 80s , I listened to an anarchist group called Crass, very anti political, and one of their many mantras was. Whoever you vote for, government wins. Understand one thing , our leaders do not have our best interests in mind or action. And there's nothing you can do about it. Excellently mirroring my thought. The lack of common sense, integrity and intelligence is astounding. Mirrored only by their levels of greed, incompetence and ignorance of direction to protect and grow our economy? Below third world soon except for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 22 hours ago, old man said: Possibly, all will be provided? Politicians seem determined to become more un-electable by the day? Why can't the money be turned off, it seems it can for the contributors who support the system? I'd say it's the same problem that lies with much of our society today. There are virtually no parties and certainly no major ones that stand for the working classes or the average man and until there is, nothing will change as the partys that are elected, namely the Conservatives or Labour know they can do what they like as they'll always get another shot at power. The only way this will change is if joe public changes the way it votes. 20 hours ago, ditchman said: over 900 saturday ..............just sayin Shocking isn't it. I'd love to know the real cost of app this on the average working/ex working person. 11 hours ago, Rewulf said: Are they even bothered about such things , it's been a long time , certainly not in my adult life, where a government has radically changed something for the better. Blair promised all sorts , delivered nothing but generation of migrats , legal and illegal, that have not changed Britain for the better. The tories simply continued blairs policies, and reluctantly gave us a form of brexit. Which changed virtually nothing either. When I was a young punk in the early 80s , I listened to an anarchist group called Crass, very anti political, and one of their many mantras was. Whoever you vote for, government wins. Understand one thing , our leaders do not have our best interests in mind or action. And there's nothing you can do about it. Absolutely bang on, although there is something we can do, vote in someone else. It might cause disruption and pain in the short term, but long term it would give the major parties a reason to listen to the people and act in their interests for a change. There's nothing these politicians like more than power and until they learn they'll loose it unless they work for those who vote for them, nothing will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: Absolutely bang on, although there is something we can do, vote in someone else. It might cause disruption and pain in the short term, but long term it would give the major parties a reason to listen to the people and act in their interests for a change. There's nothing these politicians like more than power and until they learn they'll loose it unless they work for those who vote for them, nothing will change. Besides the SNP , there are 3 main parties at the moment, I would count the Brexit/Reform party but they have no seats, and have a nasty habit of pulling back when they think they might hurt the tories chances of taking a seat (2019 being the prime example) The libs are that jaded , they will never get anywhere, the only reason they got a seat at the table in the 2010s coalition, was by dumping half its manifesto, which tends to cast doubt on the integrity somewhat, a view shared by the electorate in 2015 , as 49 out of 57 constituencies dumped them. So youre left with tories or labour, with labour being largely unelectable , due to the abysmal policies and personalities of its leadership. So , effectively , there is no one else, except the tories, which may be the lesser of two evils , but appear to grow more corrupt as we go on. Any new party that breaks onto the scene , has an uphill struggle for recognition, with the resources of all mainstream parties directed at rubbishing anything it says or does. We are backed into a corner , with a government that can pretty much do as it likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Rewulf said: Besides the SNP , there are 3 main parties at the moment, I would count the Brexit/Reform party but they have no seats, and have a nasty habit of pulling back when they think they might hurt the tories chances of taking a seat (2019 being the prime example) The libs are that jaded , they will never get anywhere, the only reason they got a seat at the table in the 2010s coalition, was by dumping half its manifesto, which tends to cast doubt on the integrity somewhat, a view shared by the electorate in 2015 , as 49 out of 57 constituencies dumped them. So youre left with tories or labour, with labour being largely unelectable , due to the abysmal policies and personalities of its leadership. So , effectively , there is no one else, except the tories, which may be the lesser of two evils , but appear to grow more corrupt as we go on. Any new party that breaks onto the scene , has an uphill struggle for recognition, with the resources of all mainstream parties directed at rubbishing anything it says or does. We are backed into a corner , with a government that can pretty much do as it likes. And its that reasoning that leads everyone to vote either Conservative or Labour, which is exactly my point, if we want real change we need to start voting for other parties. I'm going to start voting reclaim, but I don't think it matters who is voted for, providing its not the the main parties, they'd only need to loose their grip on the voting system once and they'd be all ears as to what they could do to please the public and be voted back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Rewulf said: Besides the SNP , there are 3 main parties at the moment, I would count the Brexit/Reform party but they have no seats, and have a nasty habit of pulling back when they think they might hurt the tories chances of taking a seat (2019 being the prime example) Any new party that breaks onto the scene , has an uphill struggle for recognition, with the resources of all mainstream parties directed at rubbishing anything it says or does. Farage, personally pulled the plug on standing against the Tories, however he is no longer the leader of Reform UK and Tice whilst a bit patronising at times is at least different from the mainstream, though he sometimes miss-steps, but is normally corrected by the party followers quite quickly. A Nd similarly as per my note in the Putin column, having two large legacy parties and first past the post allows no easy change as per the last election a lot of the left will vote labour to keep the Tories out and vice versa, even though given true free choice they would vote for neither. The semi proportional representation system in Scotland is no better. In truth for politics to mean something to most people, a full proportional representation system of voting is the only answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybrit Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Seeing the oil fanatics methods how about organising a bunch of free brits to block the Dover exits from the harbour from where they bring in the loafers? Just an idea. They were doing it with live animal exports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 38 minutes ago, Boybrit said: Seeing the oil fanatics methods ...... I think you will find that whilst the treatment of the oil fanatics, ER, BLM etc by the Police has been (regarded by most as) lenient, they would probably react a lot more to someone infringing immigrants human rights etc. If you get a burglary, no police now attend in many instances - too understaffed - however - when the "Queen's relay baton" came through the local town a few weeks ago - the place was lined with police, a convoy of police cars escorting - I believe the Chief Constable himself may even have turned out ........ Policing is now applied very selectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Hello, do you think Truss or Sunak if either get to be prime minister sort out the illegal immigration ? , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 45 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, do you think Truss or Sunak if either get to be prime minister sort out the illegal immigration ? , Definitely not. Its going to take a huge political change to achieve that unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 54 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, do you think Truss or Sunak if either get to be prime minister sort out the illegal immigration ? , Why would they ? Truss will be sucked into the club if she wins, she lacks the strength of personality to resist. Sunak is already a member of the club , has been for years, a member of the WEF young future leaders program, he is fully indoctrinated into the globalist mindset, he will tell you anything , but do nothing that will benefit ordinary people, and that includes stopping illegal immigration. Active participants in encouraging illegal immigration, basically human trafficking , are the soros's Open society 'foundation'. an active member within WEF. Make no mistake , anyone involved with WEF , will not be tackling illegal immigrants AT ALL , and that means Sunak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 6 hours ago, Boybrit said: Seeing the oil fanatics methods how about organising a bunch of free brits to block the Dover exits from the harbour from where they bring in the loafers? Just an idea. They were doing it with live animal exports. A Kiss goodbye to any tickets held? 4 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, do you think Truss or Sunak if either get to be prime minister sort out the illegal immigration ? , Send the POW to collect them? Good for not much else seemingly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybrit Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 A Kiss goodbye to any tickets held? Do you mean a train or bus or cinema, I do have a shotgun certificate but not a gun owners ticket.😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 31/08/2022 at 10:24, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, do you think Truss or Sunak if either get to be prime minister sort out the illegal immigration ? , Will make no difference at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, ditchman said: Will make no difference at all Hello, I fear your right 🤔🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 An idea to take the wind out of the politicians sales why not get up a petition to get into law that no immigrant can vote in any uk election until they have been here long enough to produce a forth generation . cos everyone knows that a lot of this movement of people into this country is political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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