TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 13, 2023 Report Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 minute ago, 12gauge82 said: I dispare to, but all we need to do to make drastic changes is vote for a party who will do something about it. Until the cons believe there is a viable alternative to themselves, nothing will change and they have no incentive to do so. Who might that be then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2023 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Who might that be then? there is nobody.............either someone will crawl out of a crevice and electrify people (and we have seen that happen over the decades ...havnt we ?)....or the voting system will have to change.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 9 hours ago, ditchman said: there is nobody.............either someone will crawl out of a crevice and electrify people (and we have seen that happen over the decades ...havnt we ?)....or the voting system will have to change.......... Okay, I won't hold my breath then! NOTHING will change, it will be the same two party's, Conservative and Labour. One of these two will get in to bed with Ed Davy's Liberals. They may hold the balance of power for about a year. Then everything will return to the way it has been for years. Why anybody thinks it will change eludes me. YES, it should change, but that would be akin to turkeys voting for Christmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Who might that be then? Not suggesting what you do, but I'll be voting reform which is a huge brake from the norm, that is neither a looney woke party like the greens on the left, or on the extreme right. Reform, or other parties like them, would not need to ever take power, all that would need happen is them to make enough gains to force the cons, or even Labour realise that unless they start giving the voters what they actually want, they will lose their grip on the voting public. Edited May 14, 2023 by 12gauge82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Not suggesting what you do, but I'll be voting reform which is a huge brake from the norm, that is neither a looney woke party like the greens on the left, or on the extreme right. Reform, or other parties like them, would not need to ever take power, all that would need happen is them to make enough gains to force the cons, or even Labour realise that unless they start giving the voters what they actually want, they will lose their grip on the voting public. Reform for me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith 66 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Okay, I won't hold my breath then! NOTHING will change, it will be the same two party's, Conservative and Labour.One of these two will get in to bed with Ed Davy's Liberals.They may hold the balance of power for about a year.Then everything will return to the way it has been for years.Why anybody thinks it will change eludes me. YES, it should change, but that would be akin to turkeys voting for Christmas! ^^^^ First bit absolutely correct, And we can all agree it should change but Proportional representation was kicked into touch not so long ago. Neither the cons or lab have any desire for it as it would weaken both of them. So the turkeys will continue voting for christmas, Con or Lab it matters not. You will get the same. Until the cycle is broken it will carry on. So it will be Reform for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 Front pages of the Mail and the Express this morning Labour want to allow all EU nationals living in the UK the right to vote in all British Elections. As well as 16year olds National and local as well as any future referendums And if past labour vote rigging scams of the past are anything to go by they will probably want to allow them a postal vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Front pages of the Mail and the Express this morning Labour want to allow all EU nationals living in the UK the right to vote in all British Elections. As well as 16year olds National and local as well as any future referendums And if past labour vote rigging scams of the past are anything to go by they will probably want to allow them a postal vote I can't see that getting through the commons - and would need to reduce UK 'adult' age to 16? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, Dave-G said: I can't see that getting through the commons - and would need to reduce UK 'adult' age to 16? If they get a majority in the commons after the next election they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, Dave-G said: I can't see that getting through the commons - and would need to reduce UK 'adult' age to 16? They have done it in Wales and Scotland. Picture this - allow EU citizens to vote - and then hold a referendum on joining the EU again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) Oh dear Discobob you have rumbled them. They thought nobody would notice. More to the point, if they have a majority in the house nobody can stop them Edited May 15, 2023 by Vince Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Vince Green said: Oh dear Discobob you have rumbled them. They thought nobody would notice. More to the point, if they have a majority in the house nobody can stop them Yep, they aren't even in power yet, and they are already planning the sellout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Yep, they aren't even in power yet, and they are already planning the sellout. Never underestimate how low a remainer will go to reverse Brexit If they can't get it with a fair vote they will rig the vote Edited May 15, 2023 by Vince Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIL1 Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 The hypocrisy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 11 hours ago, PIL1 said: The hypocrisy! One of my favourite YouTube channels . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 11 hours ago, PIL1 said: The hypocrisy! Ha! Quite right. Did anyone see that video of a protest in London where people were protesting to let them in? One guy filmed himself interviewing a few of them and asking if they would sign up to a housing scheme to let an illegal live with them…… not one said yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 800 today.................just thought i would put that out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 More Doctors and Skilled workers being housed at great expense Maybe some might come to a place near you to ease the housing crisis Wonder if Starmer and his party will take them in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 10 hours ago, armsid said: Starmer and his party will take them in To the detriment and discrimination of ethnic British and not a word will be said by their woke advisors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 just more than a bargefull yesterday.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Need some sea mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 I keep saying it, we need to vote a new party in, it's the only way it'll stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said: I keep saying it, we need to vote a new party in, it's the only way it'll stop. only when the voting system is changed...and that aint any time soon..............trouble is then in order to get power you will need to do deals with folk you hate.....as the MP's will be there "in-proportion"......it will be an utter cluster **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Spending £300 million on centres to deal with 1000 of them, less than 2 days worth. They need intercepting on the water and returning to France's beaches on landing craft. Or we could rescind all France's fishing licences until the boats stop, would take their Fisherman a couple of days to sort things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Weirauch17 while i am in favour of that approach there is no one here has the guts to upset our European "freinds" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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