George88 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 I'm upgrading from a 3-Gun Cabinet to a 5-Gun Cabinet today, but unsure about whether I need to notify the Firearms Department? When my FEO came round she mentioned that if they see that I am now in possession of more than 3 Guns then they'll come round and check the new Cabinet, but I've had a quick look on the internet for other forum posts but cant find anything. Do I need to notify the FD about a new cabinet, and in doing so should I expect a visit to check its bolted down well enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 i surgest do it out of curtesy..........they may want to check it is Police approved 5 lever locking or whatever......wont cost anything,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George88 Posted October 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) What about "legality" of taking out the 3-Gun they approved, and now storing my guns in the unchecked new 5-Gun Cabinet? I dont want to be breaking any rules by putting Guns in a Cabinet that hasn't been checked to be secure, yet I cant fit the new one in without taking out the old one. Edited October 31, 2021 by George88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 I have never informed the police when I've added another cabinet or moved one, and nothing has ever been said when my renewal was due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 If it helps at all, my son moved house and was asked to provide pictures of new mountings, cabinets and other security measures. All done by email back and forth in about 30 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, George88 said: What about "legality" of taking out the 3-Gun they approved, and now storing my guns in the unchecked new 5-Gun Cabinet? I dont want to be breaking any rules by putting Guns in a Cabinet that hasn't been checked to be secure, yet I cant fit the new one in without taking out the old one. So just tell them and confirm in writing and their decision. Better safe than sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Security of the weapons is the responsibility of the SGC Holder. If you are happy then crack on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just have a chat with your firearms dep’t. They are usually really helpful. There are huge discrepancies between different forces - in terms of how they manage staff / resources. Therefore important to contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 I’ve never thought to do so before, but as said above it seems a good idea to email a few pictures over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 At last visit about a month ago my FEO told me I should have informed licensing when I added another cabinet, so they could send someone to check it. It hadn’t occurred to me to do so. Anyhow, despite checking all serial numbers against records, he left without even checking any cabinets were secure! 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowdy Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Scully said: At last visit about a month ago my FEO told me I should have informed licensing when I added another cabinet, so they could send someone to check it. It hadn’t occurred to me to do so. Anyhow, despite checking all serial numbers against records, he left without even checking any cabinets were secure! 🤷♂️ That was my experience as well . Moved house in August and notified cumbria police and sent my Fac for the change of address They would not return my fac back to me until they came and checked my cabinet. The new man who has taken over never even touched the cabinet or looked in it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samboy Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 I've never bothered to tell them and had no problems. All i've ever done is told them when i've either bought or sold guns. Although one of my pals got nicked for something and i had to collect his guns from the police station. A while later the police rang me to say they were coming round as they thought i had 9 guns in a 2 gun cabinet . When they saw i had 2 cabinets they did say why didn't you tell us you had 2 cabinets. I said more to the point if you thought i only had 1 cabinet why did you release the guns to me. No more was said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentish Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 My feo told me explicitly on my SGC visit that he could see I knew how to fix a cabinet to the wall, and wouldn't need to check any additional cabinets. That said, he did come round again for my fac visit to check my arrangements. At the time I hadn't fastened the cab for separate ammo onto the wall but I explained where it was going and he said fine, he'd trust me to have it attached properly before I had any ammo in it. I'd probably advise them out of courtesy in any case, at least then the ball's in their court and if they want to check it they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Very force area specific . Nottinghamshire ask that you inform them, and are usually content with pictures of location , fixings being emailed to them. If you change address though , they come out and give you the whole home interview all over again, cabinets checked , gun and ammo inventory, just like a grant or renewal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Whenever I have changed anything to do with cabinets I notify the police with an email then it is up to them whether they want more info, photos etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 I ma just about to move my cabinets to my new address, Durning lockdown just after I moved I could not move the cabinets. I called to inform local dept and they're not even going to send anyone out to check. But I have called and notified them and will also email when I do it so I have proof in writing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just email in few pics of the fittings and the inside of the cabinet when attached that seems to do the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George88 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 Emailed them last night to tell them of my change in cabinet, stating that I intend to fix it in the same manner as my current one, so I'll see what they come back with and whether they want to come and check it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 If in doubt just tell them, it can’t do any harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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