Pub landlord

[scouser]

In a pub yesterday, landlord was talking about his electric bill going up from 15p a unit to 94p, said it was going to cost approx 6K a month. No wonder pubs are closing down.

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, I think a lot of village pubs will struggle but where I live in town the popular pubs are still going , you would not think there's a financial crisis , after October it may be a different matter for pub landlords, saying that the main brewery chains charge such high rents many pubs have already closed, how many are now private homes or flats ?

Edited September 4, 2022 by oldypigeonpopper

[ditchman]

34 minutes ago, scouser said:

In a pub yesterday, landlord was talking about his electric bill going up from 15p a unit to 94p, said it was going to cost approx 6K a month. No wonder pubs are closing down.

pubs

take-a-ways

bakeries

resturants

corner shops

newsagents

farm shops

offices

 

the list goes on of high energy users...................................oh ...and toilet roll manufacturers

Edited September 4, 2022 by ditchman

[Jega]

25 minutes ago, ditchman said:

pubs

take-a-ways

bakeries

resturants

corner shops

newsagents

farm shops

offices

 

the list goes on of high energy users...................................oh ...and toilet roll manufacturers

Unfortunately all the above and quite a few more don't get the protection of the energy cap that us domestic users get.

I can only see carnage ahead without some serious government intervention.

[manthing]

31 minutes ago, ditchman said:

........oh ...and toilet roll manufacturers

For goodness sake don't mention bog roll, you'll set the hoarders off again...

[ditchman]

32 minutes ago, manthing said:

For goodness sake don't mention bog roll, you'll set the hoarders off again...

no **** shylock

[oldypigeonpopper]

1 hour ago, ditchman said:

pubs

take-a-ways

bakeries

resturants

corner shops

newsagents

farm shops

offices

 

the list goes on of high energy users...................................oh ...and toilet roll manufacturers

Stoke on Trent potteries 🤔 they must use a huge amount of electricity 

[ditchman]

39 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Stoke on Trent potteries 🤔 they must use a huge amount of electricity 

STOP PRESS:******

GREGGS  (the high street pasty and sausage roll baker) have anounced they are closing due to unsastainable energy costs....

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Stop spreading scare stories!   

[ditchman]

5 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Stop spreading scare stories!   

all the fat Greggnant girls are going to die..

[12gauge82]

The government can blame the Ukraine war as much as they wamt, the reality is their ludicrous green policy, we're sitting on an abundance of coal, we should have a publicly owned energy system and we shouldnt have shut our coal fired stations until viable alternatives were up and running. 

[Newbie to this]

9 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

The government can blame the Ukraine war as much as they wamt, the reality is their ludicrous green policy, we're sitting on an abundance of coal, we should have a publicly owned energy system and we shouldnt have shut our coal fired stations until viable alternatives were up and running. 

This.

It's criminal

[Rem260]

3 hours ago, ditchman said:

pubs

take-a-ways

bakeries

resturants

corner shops

newsagents

farm shops

offices

 

the list goes on of high energy users...................................oh ...and toilet roll manufacturers

Let's hope that doesn't include

Nail Bars

Hairdressers 

Coffee shops

Mobile Phone Outlets

As those on benefits will have no where to meet and spend their hard earned benefits.

[ditchman]

2 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

The government can blame the Ukraine war as much as they wamt, the reality is their ludicrous green policy, we're sitting on an abundance of coal, we should have a publicly owned energy system and we shouldnt have shut our coal fired stations until viable alternatives were up and running. 

cheaper to import it from Poland or Egypt

[12gauge82]

45 minutes ago, ditchman said:

cheaper to import it from Poland or Egypt

I'm sure, but does that factor in the decent paying uk jobs it would create in deprived areas, the benefits payments it'd save for unemployed, the UK pounds that would circulate in our economy and most importantly the national security using our own resources would ensure. 

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, there's a new cafe opened in town 🤔 , that's about 8  now, more cafes than banks or charity shops, 

Edited September 4, 2022 by oldypigeonpopper

[TIGHTCHOKE]

3 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

I'm sure, but does that factor in the decent paying uk jobs it would create in deprived areas, the benefits payments it'd save for unemployed, the UK pounds that would circulate in our economy and most importantly the national security using our own resources would ensure. 

Please stop being so damned sensible, you'd never make it as a politician!   

1 minute ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, there's a new cafe opened in town 🤔 , that's about 8 in town now, more cafes than banks or charity shops, 

Until they can't afford to heat the place and their customers stop going.  

[oldypigeonpopper]

3 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

The government can blame the Ukraine war as much as they wamt, the reality is their ludicrous green policy, we're sitting on an abundance of coal, we should have a publicly owned energy system and we shouldnt have shut our coal fired stations until viable alternatives were up and running. 

Hello, Didcot 1 could have gone on another 10 years, still there is still No 2 ,oh that's gas 🤔

[Vince Green]

It's not only the energy bills. The customers are going to disappear in large numbers because they too have been hit with big bills theycant afford.

[mel b3]

5 hours ago, ditchman said:

all the fat Greggnant girls are going to die..

Quick , hump as many as you can before they all get thin 😁

[Mice!]

3 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

I'm sure, but does that factor in the decent paying uk jobs it would create in deprived areas, the benefits payments it'd save for unemployed, the UK pounds that would circulate in our economy and most importantly the national security using our own resources would ensure. 

Pretty sure they wanted rid of the miners because of the unions, no miners no mines.

And I've no idea how long it would take to get the mines going again,  never mind train people.

[scouser]

Why is it that the French EDF power company, 90% owned by the French government, only put their prices up by 4%.i thought that under E.U. rules every thing had to be privatised . But then it was only the UK that obeyed the rules.

[oowee]

9 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

The government can blame the Ukraine war as much as they wamt, the reality is their ludicrous green policy, we're sitting on an abundance of coal, we should have a publicly owned energy system and we shouldnt have shut our coal fired stations until viable alternatives were up and running. 

Why did you not vote Corbyn that was his proposal? Do you want him back?

53 minutes ago, scouser said:

Why is it that the French EDF power company, 90% owned by the French government, only put their prices up by 4%.i thought that under E.U. rules every thing had to be privatised . But then it was only the UK that obeyed the rules.

They did a Corbyn, Is that what you want?

 

Nationalised industries rarely work but we need a better framework agreement and support to reach renewable targets. Trouble is all this stuff is long term so gets little support here.

[Rim Fire]

15 hours ago, Newbie to this said:

This.

It's criminal

And who is going to go down the pits to dig the coal out NOT this generation of youth also the old skills are lost you just cant start a coal mine like a lot of other industries the skill is  lost 

Edited September 5, 2022 by Rim Fire

[Newbie to this]

2 minutes ago, Rim Fire said:

And who is going to go down the pits to dig the coal out NOT this generation of youth also the old skills are lost you just cant start a coal mine like a lot of other industries the skill is  lost 

That's why on another thread I said all these things take time.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't do it.

And if you read the comment I quoted it states that the mines should never have been closed until a viable alternative was in place. Viable to me doesn't mean reliance on foreign gas and wood.