12gauge82 Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 The police these days are as much use as a chocolate tea pot. They're not interested in crime, but certain things will get them out in minutes, despite it having nothing to do with an offence. Generally speaking of course, as there's also good officers but the type of person they seem to employ these days are either highly intelligent with limited common sense, missing a backbone or utterly narcissistic. Somethings gone very wrong with policing in the uk, no wonder the public has totally lost faith in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said: Generally speaking of course, as there's also good officers but the type of person they seem to employ these days are either highly intelligent with limited common sense, missing a backbone or utterly narcissistic. Or in the case of the MET, murderers and rapists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 Well it looks like having your SGS with you and the farmer telling the police you have permission will not protect you from this type of action by some firearms officers. Where next I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 I think we would all like to know the outcome………..anyone know ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenman Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, holloway said: I think we would all like to know the outcome………..anyone know ? https://basc.org.uk/shotguns-returned-following-pigeon-shooting-seizure/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 2 hours ago, edenman said: https://basc.org.uk/shotguns-returned-following-pigeon-shooting-seizure/ Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 4 hours ago, old'un said: Well it looks like having your SGS with you and the farmer telling the police you have permission will not protect you from this type of action by some firearms officers. Where next I wonder? Indeed. You would think given what you’ve stated above not being enough to satisfy the rozzers that all was legit’, arrests would have been made of the people along with their firearms, wouldn’t you? 🤔 Very strange behaviour indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 With regards to notifying police prior to actually going out my experience was far from sensible. Police man asked if i could control rabbits on a cricket pitch, written permission etc, given a call centre number to ring before and at the end of the night. Process followed to the "T" still had armed response roll up all exited. Right and Left hand dont even know they exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, Dougy said: With regards to notifying police prior to actually going out my experience was far from sensible. Police man asked if i could control rabbits on a cricket pitch, written permission etc, given a call centre number to ring before and at the end of the night. Process followed to the "T" still had armed response roll up all exited. Right and Left hand dont even know they exist. This my one and only experience of trying to inform HQ that I intended to go shooting, at the request of my FEO, who was a decent enough bloke and a shooter himself. Called HQ and eventually got through and informed them I would be going shooting. They wanted to know where I was going, what time I’d be there and until when. They wanted the registration of the vehicle I’d be in and what firearms I was taking and if I would be alone, and if not who would be with me and what firearms would they have. The only thing I could give with certainty was the land I was starting on, but that even the vehicle reg’ could possibly change when I got there. I told them this and tried to explain why, but it just seemed to confuse the issue, so I said I wouldn’t bother going. I did of course, but never bothered phoning again. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 On 28/07/2023 at 13:58, marsh man said: As you rightly say , what a waste of police time , but these things are happening more and more , the new houses are spreading deeper and deeper into the countryside and on a lot of farmland people have, or think they have a right to roam , the chances of any member of the public getting charged for tresspass on farmland is virtually nil , I agree you can shoot ( safely ) on or near a footpath but you need to be in a position where you can see any member of the public before they can see you , as they won't think to kindly in hearing a loud bang and gun shot falling around them , for all they know they could have been shot at and it won't be long before you see a Blue flashing light coming your way . I've had two complaints to the police during friendly clay shoots in the past 4 years (none in the previous 14 years). I never found out who made the complaints, but I do worry about housing encroachment. A new estate was built and completed two years ago - according to measurement on Google maps - just shy of 1000 metres away from where we shoot. That has also led to an increase in walkers in the area. Last year a family friend called into visit and he talked about the new estate and he said places like that especially if they build closer will be the death of you. I think he's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 When a friend and myself started to look after an estate in Shropshire we got acquainted with the local Wildlife Officer. He suggested that, when lamping, we contacted the police first to avoid any confusion with someone phoning in that they had seen a lamp. Every time we called in a police vehicle never failed to turn up. We gave up contacting after about three weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkom Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 On 06/08/2023 at 05:31, 12gauge82 said: The police these days are as much use as a chocolate tea pot. I cannot possibly endorse this statement. Chocolate is always edible in the last resort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 1 minute ago, harkom said: Chocolate is always edible in the last resort. You've obviously not come across Hershey chocolate. It is not edible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 On 02/08/2023 at 12:54, Gas seal said: Hi maybe the film makers would know what happened in the field. A man was pigeon shooting with his friends, how many friends, where they paying for the shooting if so who was in charge. They need a license for the guns and a licence to kill the pigeons, a complaint was made and the guns were taken from them. If the law was broken ignorance is no excuse. The film maker says that they were legally shooting pigeons. The question I would ask is when did this happen and are they still legally shooting pigeons if not why. A solicitor would soon sort it out for them. They need a licence to kill pigeons, really !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, spanj said: They need a licence to kill pigeons, really !! Yes even though they don'r need to apply for it.. GL42 Edited August 7, 2023 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas seal Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 Hi spanj . Woodpigeon are protected by law. A wildlife management license is required to kill them or destroy the eggs and or nests. The Secretary of State will issue licences as (recommended ) by English Nature. The licences were revoked not long ago, so they must exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gas seal said: Hi spanj . Woodpigeon are protected by law. A wildlife management license is required to kill them or destroy the eggs and or nests. The Secretary of State will issue licences as (recommended ) by English Nature. The licences were revoked not long ago, so they must exist. I think spanj’s reply may have been tongue in cheek, but I am sure he will correct me if I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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