Rewulf Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Another person whos manner I dont particularly like , but can often speak a lot of sense is Mr Fox. Sacked by GB news for a comment about a female journo, he has had his house raided this morning about comments he made about ULEZ cameras. Basically he made a podcast where he urged the people of London to 'tear down' said cameras, and that he would be joining them to do so. He has been arrested and charged (I assume) with conspiracy to commit criminal damage. Beware what youre posting on social media folks, because its a lot easier for the Met police to trawl social media looking for crimes like this , than tackle Londons out of control knife crime, burglary and street robbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 hello, he really should stick to his acting career but this may put this to a real demise 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 28 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Another person whos manner I dont particularly like , but can often speak a lot of sense is Mr Fox. Sacked by GB news for a comment about a female journo, he has had his house raided this morning about comments he made about ULEZ cameras. Basically he made a podcast where he urged the people of London to 'tear down' said cameras, and that he would be joining them to do so. He has been arrested and charged (I assume) with conspiracy to commit criminal damage. Beware what youre posting on social media folks, because its a lot easier for the Met police to trawl social media looking for crimes like this , than tackle Londons out of control knife crime, burglary and street robbery. So chris Packham will be next eh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 the net is awash with similar comments to fox and worse why are they not all under arrest? or do they have to annoy some blonde first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, ditchman said: So chris Packham will be next eh ? No chance , protected minority, so he can say what he likes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Fox was more specific than Packham, but it has a definite hint of double standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Fox was more specific than Packham, but it has a definite hint of double standards. And the Extinction lot caught red handed causing criminal damage were acquitted by a Jury the other week despite the judge instructing them not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: Another person whos manner I dont particularly like , but can often speak a lot of sense is Mr Fox. Yes, not listened to an awful lot he's said but I find myself agreeing with him. 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: Basically he made a podcast where he urged the people of London to 'tear down' said cameras, and that he would be joining them to do so. He has been arrested and charged (I assume) with conspiracy to commit criminal damage. Trouble is, they are tearing them down, and whether you agree with them or not, it is criminal damage and he's inciting it. I'd rather not live in a lawless society (well, any more than it is now). 9 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: And the Extinction lot caught red handed causing criminal damage were acquitted by a Jury the other week despite the judge instructing them not to. I wonder if Mr Fox went to trial with a jury of Londoners he'd be acquitted too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Fox is a loose cannon.............im sure coke is in the mix there to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Again, whatever you think of Mr Fox, what is happening is what will be coming in for ordinary people -go against Climate change you will be arrested. Don’t have enough insulation, down you go for 12 months. Say something in jest on social media and it will be bend over Sir!! we live in dangerous times where the forces and agencies that we pay for are at war against us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Almost pays to have no social media, forim use or a tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 58 minutes ago, Wymondley said: I'd rather not live in a lawless society (well, any more than it is now) I understand conspiracy charges, but saying stuff on the interweb is drifting into the grey area of a credible charge IMHO. There have been plenty of instances lately of 'incitement' which have not attracted an inkling of police attention, yet here we have a full scale house search and investigation for an I'll advised comment? I'll be following this story closely, as it seems to be another attempt to stifle free speech and protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, Rewulf said: I understand conspiracy charges, but saying stuff on the interweb is drifting into the grey area of a credible charge IMHO. There have been plenty of instances lately of 'incitement' which have not attracted an inkling of police attention, yet here we have a full scale house search and investigation for an I'll advised comment? I'll be following this story closely, as it seems to be another attempt to stifle free speech and protest. That was raised on Julia Hartley Brewer before - and a lot of them are BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rewulf said: I understand conspiracy charges, but saying stuff on the interweb is drifting into the grey area of a credible charge IMHO. I agree, but there is a distinction between saying things that offend, criticise or are clearly fancifull, and encouraging people to participate in a criminal activity that's already taking place. Whilst I'm sure the police have far more important issues to deal with than what an actor said on the internet (like maybe catching those responsible for the damage) I can see (sort of) why they chose to investigate. The fact they probably went over the top about it is par for the course with plod, a "quiet word the ear" went out the window long ago. It has however given him, and the cause, some publicity and that may well have been the intention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Funny how Islamic extremist hate clerics don’t get raided and these blm tik too lot who incited riots in London etc Just got to wonder whose next … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 13 hours ago, discobob said: Again, whatever you think of Mr Fox, what is happening is what will be coming in for ordinary people -go against Climate change you will be arrested. Don’t have enough insulation, down you go for 12 months. Say something in jest on social media and it will be bend over Sir!! we live in dangerous times where the forces and agencies that we pay for are at war against us Yep destroyed from within? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobbyathome Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 I don’t like mr fox he is a loudmouth troublemaker but in this case his spouting off about vandalising ulez cameras I say good on him . the sooner we vote khan out and get a politician that will scrap them the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 I'm no lawyer but I'd of thought it could be argued the implementation of ulez is it's self illegal. It's a deeply unpopular policy that is being rejected by the people. The Ulez scheme can hardly claim to have public backing or legitimatcey, how can the police claim to be policing by consent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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udderlyoffroad Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 16 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: I'm no lawyer but I'd of thought it could be argued the implementation of ulez is it's self illegal. I ain't a lawyer either, but I doubt that's grounds for defence against a charge of conspiracy to commit criminal damage. Mitigation, perhaps. Obvious caveat that I think the guy can be a bit odious. And he definitely should've clarified that he was responding in kind (read; lowering himself to her level) when he said he wouldn't **** Ava Wosshername - she'd posted the inverse numerous times on her social media. But he's hardly Oswald Mosley either. The silver lining to this cloud, however, is the amount of people asking questions on social media (I know, not real life) of Hampshire constabulary, as to why they hadn't yet invited Packham down the station for a chat with no tea and biscuits. He after all, made a whole programme on the breaking of the law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 22 hours ago, nobbyathome said: the sooner we vote khan out and get a politician that will scrap them the better Good luck finding one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 The more I listen to Mr Fox the more I like him. I expect the idea of removing all the electronic devices in his house is about finding anything else they can do him for, rather than as evidence of his actual alleged "crime". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: Good luck finding one No chance, it is a branch of labours magic money tree - nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 On 04/10/2023 at 18:36, Wymondley said: Yes, not listened to an awful lot he's said but I find myself agreeing with him. Trouble is, they are tearing them down, and whether you agree with them or not, it is criminal damage and he's inciting it. I'd rather not live in a lawless society (well, any more than it is now). I wonder if Mr Fox went to trial with a jury of Londoners he'd be acquitted too? Id rather not live in a lawless society either but we are over monitored, over regulated and under enforced with little proportionality in a lot of sentencing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 18 hours ago, udderlyoffroad said: I ain't a lawyer either, but I doubt that's grounds for defence against a charge of conspiracy to commit criminal damage. Mitigation, perhaps. Obvious caveat that I think the guy can be a bit odious. And he definitely should've clarified that he was responding in kind (read; lowering himself to her level) when he said he wouldn't **** Ava Wosshername - she'd posted the inverse numerous times on her social media. But he's hardly Oswald Mosley either. The silver lining to this cloud, however, is the amount of people asking questions on social media (I know, not real life) of Hampshire constabulary, as to why they hadn't yet invited Packham down the station for a chat with no tea and biscuits. He after all, made a whole programme on the breaking of the law All very good points. I think this is a much wider problem, with the police choosing to police some matters more firmly depending on what side of a political topic it's on. I'd love to see packhams collar felt for his comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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