TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Well would you Adam and Eve it? Following the absolutely pointless SNP call for a vote to call for an immediate CEASEFIRE in Gaza. It will not change ANYTHING. Sir Keir Starmer imposed the whip with threats of sackings and off they went. He called for a much more reasonable longer pause in the fighting to allow people out and aid in. Result, a vote lost massively despite all of their grandstanding. Falling on their swords in public to make a point that had no point and would not have changed anything. He had been showing off these MPs as possible contenders to govern the country if he got in to power. What a bloody shambles the Labour Party are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 And the conservatives are are stone wall bunch sticking together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: And the conservatives are are stone wall bunch sticking together No, not at all, but Labour have taken it to the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) hello, i just do not understand why anyone needs to vote as it will not stop the IDF from their mission to rid Gaza of Hamas fighters, there was call for Putin to stop bombing Ukraine 🤔 where did that get to 🤔 Edited November 16, 2023 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i just do not understand why anyone needs to vote as it will not stop the IDF from their mission to rid Gaza of Hamas fighters It was purely a publicity stunt by the SNP, yet more grandstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i just do not understand why anyone needs to vote as it will not stop the IDF from their mission to rid Gaza of Hamas fighters You are right it would be pointless now for the IDF to stop after so much killing has been done they got to see it through Both sides have fired a few rockets at each other over the years but this time Hamas went to far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Bookmaker's still have Labour listed as almost certain to not only win the next election, but have an overall majority. The truth is that outside of those marching in London, I don't think the events in Gaza are affecting many people's voting intentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, i just do not understand why anyone needs to vote as it will not stop the IDF from their mission to rid Gaza of Hamas fighters, there was call for Putin to stop bombing Ukraine 🤔 where did that get to 🤔 Indeed it's just pointless even if every MP voted for a ceasefire and everyone in the UK went on a march it's not going to stop the IDF from their objective of removing Hammas, they have already said that they will carry on with or without support from the USA and the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.T Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 So where is the outrage and condemnation of Hamas? I don’t see any media coverage of putting the blame on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: What a bloody shambles the Labour Party are. Nothing changes. They always were and probably always will be. Far too broad a stretch between the 'centre' ground of the 'Blairites' and the far left 'Momentum' Corbyn supporters. On which note - I see that the other Corbyn idiot (Piers) claims Israel invited Hamas in deliberately to build up outrage and attack them back! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12751333/piers-corbyn-vile-conspiracy-theory-hamas-terror-attacks-israel.html 11 minutes ago, B725 said: Indeed it's just pointless even if every MP voted for a ceasefire and everyone in the UK went on a march it's not going to stop the IDF from their objective of removing Hammas, they have already said that they will carry on with or without support from the USA and the UK. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mr.T said: So where is the outrage and condemnation of Hamas? I don’t see any media coverage of putting the blame on them? It's almost non existent plus why are the figures quoted for the death's in Gaza solely from what Hamas put out, unless the MSM believes that Hamas are a law abiding peaceful and truthful bunch of terrorists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, B725 said: It's almost non existent plus why are the figures quoted for the death's in Gaza solely from what Hamas put out, unless the MSM believes that Hamas are a law abiding peaceful and truthful bunch of terrorists The VERY BEST TYPE of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 its all a double cluster **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr.T said: So where is the outrage and condemnation of Hamas? I don’t see any media coverage of putting the blame on them? Conspicuous by its absence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, ditchman said: its all a double cluster **** Well my cluster is well and truly ****** with what's happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr.T said: So where is the outrage and condemnation of Hamas? I don’t see any media coverage of putting the blame on them? try questioning the pro Israel propaganda almost anywhere and watch how fast your shut down or shown the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, clangerman said: try questioning the pro Israel propaganda almost anywhere and watch how fast your shut down or shown the door From what I have seen, there is none. The Media (MSM) appear to be pro Palestine, ergo pro Hamas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Penelope said: From what I have seen, there is none. The Media (MSM) appear to be pro Palestine, ergo pro Hamas. couple of days ago posted elsewhere how Israel had shot kids for throwing stones swiftly banned for spreading hate and dissent since when has a FACT been hate or dissent? idiots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 59 minutes ago, clangerman said: try questioning the pro Israel propaganda almost anywhere and watch how fast your shut down or shown the door Not from what I’m seeing. Latest BBC news I’ve seen is very sceptical about Israeli claims that hospital was/is a HAMAS HQ or base. 46 minutes ago, clangerman said: couple of days ago posted elsewhere how Israel had shot kids for throwing stones swiftly banned for spreading hate and dissent since when has a FACT been hate or dissent? idiots! You posted it? Who was banned from where? I have no sympathy for either side, but we need to be dealing in facts here, not hearsay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 for a change see what ive cooked for lunch today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Labour and the SNP appear to be the parties of Muslim solidarity, rather than the majority of their constituents. Perhaps the shadow of Corbyn, Williamson and the rest still hangs over them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Just let's face it they are all just a shower of self seeking, greedy useless troughers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, ditchman said: for a change see what ive cooked for lunch today 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 I watched some of this on the politics show. It all seemed to be a storm over not a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) What on earth was the point of the vote, ideas way above their station the 650 morons ruining the country at every level. Maybe they should concentrate on matters closer to home, but having said that none are fit to run a bath so no matter! Edited November 16, 2023 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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