BobbyH Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Hey all! over the past few weeks, I have noticed that guns for sale on GT has decreased from 17900 ish to 16800 ish. this is a massive decrease as it usually sits around 18000 ish, are people buying more guns or people just not selling up?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Think you may find that sellers are not bothering with GT as the new set up is just useless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerforestry Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 As above, possible uploading issues and also a general excess of used shotguns with decreasing / zero value are only advertised for so long before sellers cut their losses and stop advertising. I think there is going to be a more than considerable number of guns scrapped now and in the near future, sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 This has been going on for quite some time. It has been discussed at length on this forum and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielvb Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Can’t get on with Guntrader at all since it was altered ,so I don’t bother looking ! Was a good site ,easy to navigate ,but now I find it very difficult to find anything . If its not broke , don't fix it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 25 minutes ago, Arielvb said: Can’t get on with Guntrader at all since it was altered ,so I don’t bother looking ! Was a good site ,easy to navigate ,but now I find it very difficult to find anything . If its not broke , don't fix it ! Agreed its now hard work to use so dont bother as much now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 It could be down to the amount of guns going through holts auctions and being exported to America. People just off loading to get rid. Look at the amount of guns being put up for sale here under the reason of making room in the cabinet because they are not being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet11-87 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 probably due to not selling making people cut their losses. i mean as a potential buyer how many pages of POA, no image and dealers advertising testing a 10 grand gun for £1 do i have to sift through before i get to find actual guns for sale i know i can use the filters but its clunky. i prefer the sales on here and on stalking directory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 I agree wholeheartedly with what’s been said about Guntrader but had finally got used to the new format. Admittedly it isn’t as easy to navigate as the previous format but what is really pxxxing me off is the ‘Image Coming Soon’ note to many of the adverts. Don’t know about others, but I like (and expect) to see at least 3 photos of the gun for sale. My own advert has been on GT now for nearly three weeks and my photos have still to be uploaded. At one time photos appeared immediately the advert was published. Six emails remain unanswered. You’ve only got to look to the reviews on Trustpilot to see the total dissatisfaction with GT by all. There is one review back in May defending them but I feel sure that it was written by an ‘insider’. I’ve asked for my money back but I guess the chance of that happening is zilch. Won’t be using GT ever again. I really want to give them grief but not sure how to go about it. Any suggestions? OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downforce Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 I am still seeing adverts that I click on and they just don’t load at all (it’s like the link to the ad doesn’t work) Ive sent multiple messages saying that a specific advertisement doesn’t work and I’ve never got a response from GT to these emails and I’ve noticed that the adverts in question still don’t work several days after so I won’t bother to inform them about anything else and I would not put my kit on there when it might or might not work! D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 I for one really love the new format, it has saved me an absolute fortune as I just don’t go on it any more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 1 minute ago, button said: I for one really love the new format, it has saved me an absolute fortune as I just don’t go on it any more! BRILLIANT.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downforce Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 its particularly annoying that you don’t have the option to select privacy options by excluding tracking cookies marketing cookies etc. I wouldn’t be rushing to use GT in its current form Didnt they also have a data breach? Maybe that’s the driver for change?? D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 I believe the data breach was under a previous company. From memory, it went bump and sold itself off cheaply to avoid date breach cases. Amazingly, it appears that the new owner is much the same, if not the same as the old owner. Given that the site is now a shambles, I am less than confident date security has improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylye Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 Have a look at ‘Trigger Traders’. Haven’t tried it yet but I think I might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DammitMissedAgain Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 On 03/08/2024 at 11:14, button said: I for one really love the new format, it has saved me an absolute fortune as I just don’t go on it any more! Haha! This! Haven't had a proper look at Trigger Traders yet. Off for a peek! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerforestry Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 Trigger Traders ought to be easier to find on a search- other than GT and Gunstar it seems to be the only other sensible option aside from shooting forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 On 03/08/2024 at 11:14, button said: I for one really love the new format, it has saved me an absolute fortune as I just don’t go on it any more! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 The fact is the market is absolutely dead! I have just been offered a pair of English made sidelocks less than 20 years old that cost in excess of £100k new, I have seen the invoice, for less than 20% of that, sums it up really, nothing is moving, which beggars belief why anybody would pay to buy new Turkish when there is such quality to be had out there for what is in reality such little money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 The site is tedious at best, book marked adverts where the gun has sold seem impossible to remove from my list, gun sales are slow because of lots of factors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 1 hour ago, button said: nothing is moving, which beggars belief why anybody would pay to buy new Turkish when there is such quality to be had out there for what is in reality such little money Probably because idiots think that a gun needs a “warranty”. So they buy a gun which is built to last as long as the “warranty” instead of a gun which was built to last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 On 02/08/2024 at 19:18, BobbyH said: over the past few weeks, I have noticed that guns for sale on GT has decreased from 17900 ish to 16800 ish. this is a massive decrease as it usually sits around 18000 ish, 2 hours ago, button said: The fact is the market is absolutely dead! I have just been offered a pair of English made sidelocks less than 20 years old that cost in excess of £100k new, I have seen the invoice, for less than 20% of that I'm not sure either of the above are particularly reliable indicators of the state of the gun market. In the case of the former see the posts below, absolute amateur hour continues to reign at GunTrader towers, putting people off. In the case of the latter, well, who anyone who is spending north of £2k, never mind £20k on a gun must see it as an investment, and I'm sorry but they are terrible investments given the over supply and lack of demand. 1 hour ago, London Best said: Probably because idiots think that a gun needs a “warranty”. So they buy a gun which is built to last as long as the “warranty” instead of a gun which was built to last. I think by 'idiots' you mean people new to shooting. Not everyone has been handling shotguns since before the Beatles split up, and thus knows what to look for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 47 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said: I'm not sure either of the above are particularly reliable indicators of the state of the gun market. In the case of the former see the posts below, absolute amateur hour continues to reign at GunTrader towers, putting people off. In the case of the latter, well, who anyone who is spending north of £2k, never mind £20k on a gun must see it as an investment, and I'm sorry but they are terrible investments given the over supply and lack of demand. I think by 'idiots' you mean people new to shooting. Not everyone has been handling shotguns since before the Beatles split up, and thus knows what to look for. Before the Beatles got together! Just after the Beatles split up, through the 1970’s with raging inflation the only thing which made money faster than houses was English shotguns. My previous game gun, a good quality Birmingham box lock, was bought new in 1969 for £400. I bought it in 1989 for £1050, used it for 23 years and it sold in 2012 for £3495 if I remember correctly. It would be nice to think that a similar percentage profit might be possible when my current London sidelock is sold but, at the moment, those days have gone. It won’t bother me, because I, too, will be gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 18 minutes ago, London Best said: It would be nice to think that a similar percentage profit might be possible when my current London sidelock is sold but, at the moment, those days have gone. It won’t bother me, because I, too, will be gone! I am hoping that somehow magically I'll befriend someone who leaves me his gorgeous sidelock or similar, for me to love for another 40 years! Sadly I don't know anyone older who shoots! Very interesting to hear about your Birmingham box lock. I hope it is loved for another 43+ years! I agree with the built to last rather than built for warranty period! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 1 hour ago, udderlyoffroad said: I'm not sure either of the above are particularly reliable indicators of the state of the gun market. In the case of the former see the posts below, absolute amateur hour continues to reign at GunTrader towers, putting people off. In the case of the latter, well, who anyone who is spending north of £2k, never mind £20k on a gun must see it as an investment, and I'm sorry but they are terrible investments given the over supply and lack of demand. I think by 'idiots' you mean people new to shooting. Not everyone has been handling shotguns since before the Beatles split up, and thus knows what to look for. Not sure how north of £2k is an investment, unless it's a £45k gun that someone wants rid, ie you are getting well under market value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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