rascal_2005 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Hi guys, I'm after some advice. I have an ammo safe that has a digital key pad and a round (cylindrical type) key. But the battery has died and is fitted internally. I have no idea where the key is and i cant get into it. Has anyone had this issue and managed to get into the safe? i spoke to a locksmith and its going to cost £125 + vat 😭 Any advice will be appreciated. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 7 minutes ago, rascal_2005 said: Hi guys, I'm after some advice. I have an ammo safe that has a digital key pad and a round (cylindrical type) key. But the battery has died and is fitted internally. I have no idea where the key is and i cant get into it. Has anyone had this issue and managed to get into the safe? i spoke to a locksmith and its going to cost £125 + vat 😭 Any advice will be appreciated. thanks There was another thread not long ago, on this subject, with a couple of videos showing how (easily) to get into these safes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Would you buy another one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: There was another thread not long ago, on this subject, with a couple of videos showing how (easily) to get into these safes. This one ? https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/447075-ammo-safe-packed-in/ 14 minutes ago, rascal_2005 said: Hi guys, I'm after some advice. I have an ammo safe that has a digital key pad and a round (cylindrical type) key. But the battery has died and is fitted internally. I have no idea where the key is and i cant get into it. Has anyone had this issue and managed to get into the safe? i spoke to a locksmith and its going to cost £125 + vat 😭 Any advice will be appreciated. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JKD said: This one ? https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/447075-ammo-safe-packed-in/ That's the one Edited August 3 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 How wonderful the SEARCH function is............................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 I'm sure someone gave the safe a tap with a mallet and it popped open, a not so safe safe 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 2 hours ago, Mice! said: I'm sure someone gave the safe a tap with a mallet and it popped open, a not so safe safe 🤣🤣 The 'giving it a tap' works in some instances - but not always easy to get right. It is achieved because the solenoid bolt is moved/jolted and the slide can then move ............. however, too little pressure and you don't catch the movement in time, too much pressure and you prevent the solenoid from moving at all. It also doesn't work well if the safe is very securely mounted to the wall - as this prevents the necessary 'jolt'. When they show it in You Tube videos (as in the previous post), the safe is not bolted to the wall. Also - I believe not all have the bolt mounted in the same position as that shown in the video ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 4 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: The 'giving it a tap' works in some instances - but not always easy to get right. It is achieved because the solenoid bolt is moved/jolted and the slide can then move ............. however, too little pressure and you don't catch the movement in time, too much pressure and you prevent the solenoid from moving at all. It also doesn't work well if the safe is very securely mounted to the wall - as this prevents the necessary 'jolt'. When they show it in You Tube videos (as in the previous post), the safe is not bolted to the wall. Also - I believe not all have the bolt mounted in the same position as that shown in the video ........ Yep, exploiting Newtons 3rd law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 4 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: The 'giving it a tap' works in some instances - but not always easy to get right. It is achieved because the solenoid bolt is moved/jolted and the slide can then move ............. however, too little pressure and you don't catch the movement in time, too much pressure and you prevent the solenoid from moving at all. It also doesn't work well if the safe is very securely mounted to the wall - as this prevents the necessary 'jolt'. When they show it in You Tube videos (as in the previous post), the safe is not bolted to the wall. Also - I believe not all have the bolt mounted in the same position as that shown in the video ........ This never worked for me but if you look at the code on the key bit you may be able to get a replacement if you know the safe brand. Bit silly not to have the backup key mind… doesn’t it warn you when the battery’s low? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 If it’s fixed to a solid wall and it’s an internal can you not just get a crowbar in and go for it. failing that I would drill a hole in the underside and get a jigsaw with a metal blade onto it. The blade should hopefully push anything out the way instead of cutting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 On 03/08/2024 at 10:52, rascal_2005 said: Hi guys, I'm after some advice. I have an ammo safe that has a digital key pad and a round (cylindrical type) key. But the battery has died and is fitted internally. I have no idea where the key is and i cant get into it. Has anyone had this issue and managed to get into the safe? i spoke to a locksmith and its going to cost £125 + vat 😭 Any advice will be appreciated. thanks You need a potato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal_2005 Posted August 6 Author Report Share Posted August 6 I actually tried it and it didnt work haha. Angle grinder will be coning out soon i can feel it 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowdy Posted August 8 Report Share Posted August 8 Try using a hairdryer on the key pad to warm the battery up a bit and try the code again. Might need a couple of goes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 They're very easy to open, even with improvised tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyh Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 Gently, very gently, pull the door as you thump the top with your fist. They always open. The locking spring is weak, because a 9 volt solenoid does the opening inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 9 minutes ago, mickyh said: Gently, very gently, pull the door as you thump the top with your fist. They always open. The locking spring is weak, because a 9 volt solenoid does the opening inside. Correct and people don't change the battery as often as they should, consequently the electro magnet which operates the locking mechanism loses a significant amount of power enabling easy opening using the above method. Truth is even a full powered battery offers little resistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 If the potato doesn't work - it normally does and I have actually done it - get a biro pen. Take the end off and force the plastic tube into the lock. It strips off the correct grooves and just open the lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 11 Report Share Posted August 11 Reading these I'm amazed the police allow them for ammunition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 If all else fails just get a bent end lever and prise the door open. The locking lugs look substantial but are located on a very, very thin plate, which will bend at the drop of a hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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