Dave-G Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 (edited) Irac parliament today proposed drafting into law dropping the legal age of female marriage and consent to 9! And that ladies and gents is the sort of culture that offends us so much in this country: together with forced wearing of headgear and more, FGM, education denial and general disrespect of females, and all who don't have the same beliefs. Yet they want to bring those awful customs here. I don't give a fig about their colour or race, its their disgusting morals and culture that will never be acceptable to me. I guess some will say I'm on the far right for that stance but its what offends many of us the most. Edited August 9 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 agree with you ...would saymore but i will get warned............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 that is totally sick the men who do this need castrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 25 minutes ago, Dave-G said: Irac parliament today proposed drafting into law dropping the legal age of female marriage and consent to 9! And that ladies and gents is the sort of culture that offends us so much in this country: together with forced wearing of headgear and more, FGM, education denial and general disrespect of females, and all who don't have the same beliefs. Yet they want to bring those awful customs here. I don't give a fig about their colour or race, its their disgusting morals and culture that will never be acceptable to me. I guess some will say I'm on the far right for that stance but its what offends many of us the most. Not disbelieving you, but do you have a link to this. I'm very careful not to fall for fake news and this sounds ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 9 Author Report Share Posted August 9 1 minute ago, 12gauge82 said: Not disbelieving you, but do you have a link to this. I'm very careful not to fall for fake news and this sounds ridiculous. I got loads of results off Google Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 13 minutes ago, Dave-G said: I got loads of results off Google Do you believe in MSM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 we might as well hand out clubs to beat us with! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 where do people in the know get their puka/true information......BBC....where ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 3 minutes ago, ditchman said: where do people in the know get their puka/true information......BBC....where ? Do they ask/tell about Elvis and a certain 14 year old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 9 Report Share Posted August 9 Whilst I think it is a total and utter disgrace, it's their country not ours. They might think we are too soft on rioters, thieves, rapists etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 Read this; https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/aug/09/proposed-iraqi-law-change-would-legalise-child-say-activists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Read this; https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/aug/09/proposed-iraqi-law-change-would-legalise-child-say-activists Thanks for the link TIGHTCHOKE, I'm flabbergasted. Got to be honest, I thought it was going to be fake news, what type of society thinks it's okay for a 9yo to be married. I'm glad to see there are moderate people out there who are protesting against it. Dave g has a point in as much as if we allow uncontrolled immigration, although I've no doubt there are many decent and reasonable individuals in places like Iraq and elsewhere, the UK will also have individuals turn up who have no respect for women, think it's right for a 9yo to be married and be intolerant of anyone to the point of violence, if they don't share their warped ideology. In short the UK has enough of its own problems, without importing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 As far as I’m aware there’s nothing in that holy book that relates directly to child marriages but the teachings of a rather prominent character in that culture is understood to have married Aisha when she was six and “consummated” when she was 9 (lunar rather than calendar years, as if that’s some consolation). That’s the problem with applying culture and ideology which maps more closely to the first testament. No place for anything like that in our society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 11 hours ago, Gordon R said: Whilst I think it is a total and utter disgrace, it's their country not ours. They might think we are too soft on rioters, thieves, rapists etc. They do......and we are ! 1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said: Thanks for the link TIGHTCHOKE, I'm flabbergasted. Got to be honest, I thought it was going to be fake news, what type of society thinks it's okay for a 9yo to be married. I'm glad to see there are moderate people out there who are protesting against it. Dave g has a point in as much as if we allow uncontrolled immigration, although I've no doubt there are many decent and reasonable individuals in places like Iraq and elsewhere, the UK will also have individuals turn up who have no respect for women, think it's right for a 9yo to be married and be intolerant of anyone to the point of violence, if they don't share their warped ideology. In short the UK has enough of its own problems, without importing more. It's already happened ! I believe some are already in prison here for 'trafficking ' young women and girls ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 It's like I've said before, all this left right nonsense needs to stop. People need to be honest about issues on both sides, stop both the denial and the over exaggeration of issues and if that can happen, maybe we can get a well rounded working society. At the bottom of it all though, we all need to remember our humanity and that people are people, no matter where they come from. We all have the possibility of doing good as well as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, 12gauge82 said: It's like I've said before, all this left right nonsense needs to stop. People need to be honest about issues on both sides, stop both the denial and the over exaggeration of issues and if that can happen, maybe we can get a well rounded working society. At the bottom of it all though, we all need to remember our humanity and that people are people, no matter where they come from. We all have the possibility of doing good as well as bad. I used to think like that, but after over 50 years of dealing with 'people', I'm afraid I lost my rose tinted Pilla's ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 There are some States in America where girls can marry at 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 3 minutes ago, Vince Green said: There are some States in America where girls can marry at 14. Which is okay over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 15 hours ago, Gordon R said: Whilst I think it is a total and utter disgrace, it's their country not ours. They might think we are too soft on rioters, thieves, rapists etc. Not sure that makes it ok, just because it’s ‘their’ country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 I never said it was okay. I don't agree with the laws in a few countries, but it doesn't matter what we think, they have the right to make their own laws. Age of consent in USA varies from state to state. Other countries make their laws and enforce them - we don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 Hello, I watched a programme on FGM , An abhorrent practice same as any 9 year old girl placed in marriage, You only have to look at those men in prison for grooming young girls in UK , Pakistan born or UK born with Pakistan heritage, and it is still going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted August 10 Report Share Posted August 10 19 hours ago, scarecrow243 said: that is totally sick the men who do this need castrated That would take their mind off it somewhat (snigger) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 On 10/08/2024 at 09:33, Raja Clavata said: As far as I’m aware there’s nothing in that holy book that relates directly to child marriages but the teachings of a rather prominent character in that culture is understood to have married Aisha when she was six and “consummated” when she was 9 (lunar rather than calendar years, as if that’s some consolation). That’s the problem with applying culture and ideology which maps more closely to the first testament. No place for anything like that in our society. I was going to say, it will just bring them in line with their Book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 30 minutes ago, Penelope said: I was going to say, it will just bring them in line with their Book. And this is one of the many serious problems with mass uncontrolled migration. When we're allowing any Tom, ****, or Harry to turn up in the UK from countrys like Iraq or even less westernised places, we are going to have a number of people arrive with all sorts of warped views that they will continue to hold and act upon while living here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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