yickdaz Posted August 14, 2024 Report Share Posted August 14, 2024 I don't know if this is allowed so mods remove it if so I've signed it and chipped in a few quid https://chng.it/NrQSXgRHnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted August 14, 2024 Report Share Posted August 14, 2024 Signed, for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted August 14, 2024 Report Share Posted August 14, 2024 yeh me too, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted August 14, 2024 Report Share Posted August 14, 2024 Signed and shared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 14, 2024 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2024 52 minutes ago, Wymondley said: Signed, for what it's worth. Worth a try at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 14, 2024 Report Share Posted August 14, 2024 Signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 15, 2024 Report Share Posted August 15, 2024 Never rated Starmer and I don't trust his word, but I am astonished just how far and how quickly his stock has plummeted. Whilst Labour have a massive majority and ought to be safe for the next five years, I think Starmer will be out on his ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted August 15, 2024 Report Share Posted August 15, 2024 Sometimes the green grass on the other side of things like this is just more weeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 16, 2024 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 12 hours ago, ShootingEgg said: Sometimes the green grass on the other side of things like this is just more weeds Yeah but he's a giant weed that needs pulling up by the roots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 Problem is, who and to a major extent, how far left, would any replacement be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 15 hours ago, Gordon R said: I think Starmer will be out on his ear. Many were saying that was always the plan. Use Starmer (who is plain, dull and boring, but seen by many as fundamentally 'a safe pair of hands') to win the election, then oust him and replace him with Rayner, who will get rid of Starmers relatively 'moderate' cabinet and bring in whoever the Union movement wants. Maybe they were right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 Or far right? 😁 You're all sounding like the "remoaners" you were all banging on about after Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 37 minutes ago, Jaymo said: Problem is, who and to a major extent, how far left, would any replacement be! Quite possibly VERY left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 16, 2024 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 2 hours ago, Jaymo said: Problem is, who and to a major extent, how far left, would any replacement be! How many dictators are waiting in line ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 Signed - but I reckon his deputy is at least as left - if not more so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 Careful, you'll all be on a list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 In the past few days, the (Labour) Gov't has offered a substantial pay increase (18% has been mentioned, though I'm not sure of the terms) to train drivers. It is not yet 'accepted or rejected', but in advance of this decision, a new series of strikes has been announced going through every weekend until November https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13750121/Aslef-announces-three-months-train-strikes-weekend-August-November.html So it may well be "we'll take the money anyway, but continue the strikes based on another justification". I cannot believe how much this reminds me of Labour governments of old with one strike after another - mainly in the public and nationalised sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: In the past few days, the (Labour) Gov't has offered a substantial pay increase (18% has been mentioned, though I'm not sure of the terms) to train drivers. It is not yet 'accepted or rejected', but in advance of this decision, a new series of strikes has been announced going through every weekend until November https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13750121/Aslef-announces-three-months-train-strikes-weekend-August-November.html So it may well be "we'll take the money anyway, but continue the strikes based on another justification". I cannot believe how much this reminds me of Labour governments of old with one strike after another - mainly in the public and nationalised sector. Oh I remember in the 70s. Having to work 3 , twelve hours shifts. Because of the power. Cuts. , use. To get to 8 in the morning. , you still had another 4 hours. To do till 12 noon . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 4 hours ago, Mr.C said: Or far right? 😁 You're all sounding like the "remoaners" you were all banging on about after Brexit. A bit like this you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 (edited) How comes train drivers earn so much i read on a link posted in off topic on here that the average salary for a train driver was £60,055 ! Thats more than a paramedic , police officer, and soldiers and firefighters! And they still want more. Think they are taking the ****! Edited August 16, 2024 by B686 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 Never thought I'd see someone cite Sex and the City* on PW! 🤣 Obviously, I don't need to tell a man of your calibre how flawed that comparison is, that with barely 20% of the electorate voting for Labour, some 9.6m votes, with turnout the lowest for 20 years, somehow 'losing' doesn't seem quite as bad. In any case, Labour has in the space of a month absolutely weaponised the judiciary, caved in to union demands with inevitable results, and er....scrapped a non-means tested benefit for pensioners (That doubtless will cost more to means test than it saves), that Labour introduced! The Magna Carta is on fire, to quote Ted Cruz. Going to take me a while to 'get over' that one. *To those PW elders fortunate enough to have been spared this pleasure, I think Brian from Family Guy summarised it succinctly when he said "So...it's a show about 3 hookers and their mom? (sic)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 I didn't even know the graphic was from Sex and the City. What I find well funny is the number of folks complaining about Starmer who undoubtedly increased his party's majority by voting for Reform, you couldn't make it up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 (edited) 20 hours ago, Gordon R said: Never rated Starmer and I don't trust his word, but I am astonished just how far and how quickly his stock has plummeted. Whilst Labour have a massive majority and ought to be safe for the next five years, I think Starmer will be out on his ear. It was always going to be the case that Starmer would go the way of Julius Caesar. Stabbed in the back by his political friends . Be afraid though, there are some seriously worrying fruitcakes lurking under the sanitised veneer of political respectability that is the present Labour Party Edited August 16, 2024 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 16, 2024 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 5 minutes ago, Vince Green said: It was always going to be the case that Starmer would go the way of Julius Caesar. Stabbed in the back by his political friends . Be afraid though, there are some seriously worrying fruitcakes lurking under the sanitised veneer of political respectability afraid though, there are some seriously worrying fruitcakes lurking under the sanitised veneer of political respectability And that sums starmer up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 16, 2024 Report Share Posted August 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, yickdaz said: And that sums starmer up A brilliant military tactician? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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