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15 hours ago, Gordon R said:

I think Starmer will be out on his ear.

Many were saying that was always the plan. 

Use Starmer (who is plain, dull and boring, but seen by many as fundamentally 'a safe pair of hands') to win the election, then oust him and replace him with Rayner, who will get rid of Starmers relatively 'moderate' cabinet and bring in whoever the Union movement wants.

Maybe they were right?

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In the past few days, the (Labour) Gov't has offered a substantial pay increase (18% has been mentioned, though I'm not sure of the terms) to train drivers.  It is not yet 'accepted or rejected', but in advance of this decision, a new series of strikes has been announced going through every weekend until November  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13750121/Aslef-announces-three-months-train-strikes-weekend-August-November.html

So it may well be "we'll take the money anyway, but continue the strikes based on another justification".

I cannot believe how much this reminds me of Labour governments of old with one strike after another - mainly in the public and nationalised sector.

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2 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said:

In the past few days, the (Labour) Gov't has offered a substantial pay increase (18% has been mentioned, though I'm not sure of the terms) to train drivers.  It is not yet 'accepted or rejected', but in advance of this decision, a new series of strikes has been announced going through every weekend until November  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13750121/Aslef-announces-three-months-train-strikes-weekend-August-November.html

So it may well be "we'll take the money anyway, but continue the strikes based on another justification".

I cannot believe how much this reminds me of Labour governments of old with one strike after another - mainly in the public and nationalised sector.

Oh I remember  in the 70s. Having to work 3 , twelve hours shifts. Because of the power. Cuts. , use. To get to 8 in the morning. , you still had another 4 hours. To do till 12 noon . 

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How comes train drivers earn so much i read on a link posted in off topic on here that the average salary for a train driver was £60,055 ! Thats more than a paramedic , police officer, and soldiers and firefighters!
And they still want more. Think they are taking the ****!

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Never thought I'd see someone cite Sex and the City* on PW! 🤣

Obviously, I don't need to tell a man of your calibre how flawed that comparison is, that with barely 20% of the electorate voting for Labour, some 9.6m votes, with turnout the lowest for 20 years, somehow 'losing' doesn't seem quite as bad.

In any case, Labour has in the space of a month absolutely weaponised the judiciary, caved in to union demands with inevitable results, and er....scrapped a non-means tested benefit for pensioners (That doubtless will cost more to means test than it saves), that Labour introduced!

The Magna Carta is on fire, to quote Ted Cruz.  Going to take me a while to 'get over' that one.

*To those PW elders fortunate enough to have been spared this pleasure, I think Brian from Family Guy summarised it succinctly when he said "So...it's a show about 3 hookers and their mom? (sic)"

 

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20 hours ago, Gordon R said:

Never rated Starmer and I don't trust his word, but I am astonished just how far and how quickly his stock has plummeted.

Whilst Labour have a massive majority and ought to be safe for the next five years, I think Starmer will be out on his ear.

It was always going to be the case that Starmer would go the way of Julius Caesar. Stabbed in the back by his political friends . Be afraid though, there are some seriously worrying fruitcakes lurking under the sanitised veneer of political respectability that is the present Labour Party 

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5 minutes ago, Vince Green said:

It was always going to be the case that Starmer would go the way of Julius Caesar. Stabbed in the back by his political friends . Be afraid though, there are some seriously worrying fruitcakes lurking under the sanitised veneer of political respectability afraid though, there are some seriously worrying fruitcakes lurking under the sanitised veneer of political respectability

 And that sums starmer up 

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