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I think my questions are, what other options  where available?

 

Do we want / need these public services?  if we do then they need funding, if not then what do we put in place as an alternative to the NHS etc?

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26 minutes ago, Red696 said:

I think my questions are, what other options  where available?

 

Do we want / need these public services?  if we do then they need funding, if not then what do we put in place as an alternative to the NHS etc?

 

The NHS absolutely doesn't need more money. We are now a national health service with a Country hanging off it. Labour bottled it - they could have tried to sort it out but no, they want to throw more money into the leaking bucket. Mark my words, we will throw that money in and see no demonstrable change for the better. Ditto all other public services - there is nothing quite like the public sector for making something cost three times as much as it should and then failing to deliver on time or at all.

Keep an eye on GB Energy. They will waste billions on it and it will be shut down inside a decade. Indeed, a labour government can't understand the need for a business to make a profit and run efficiently to achieve that. That is because no one in the cabinet has actually had a job outside of politics let alone run a business.

 

26 minutes ago, Wylye said:

Not as bad as the media were predicting is it? Not that they were trying to sensationalise the whole thing........

 

It's bad.

There will be no growth.

And lest we forget, we've got another 9 budgets to go before Labour get unseated. Anyone see any tax cuts on anything ever coming over the horizon?

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33 minutes ago, sitsinhedges said:

Think I dodged a bullet largely, especially regarding property. I own one rental flat but will be selling unfortunately. Not worth the gamble now despite taxes remaining largely the same.

Thousands of other landlords have done the same thing for the same reasons. Precipitating possibly the biggest housing crisis we have ever seen.

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1 hour ago, Wylye said:

Not as bad as the media were predicting is it? Not that they were trying to sensationalise the whole thing........

That's because the MMM is Tory biased in the extreme. Owned by non doms who pay no tax.

No mention (I think) of Lady Mone's millions nor Dido Harding's £37 billion track and trace - oh and Sunak's nice little earner for his wife and Infosis?

At least we 1.7% off a pint!

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It was a budget to pacify the masses, but as has been said there are more budgets to come, and the sting will be in them, i can see pay per mile coming on the horizon and lots of other things that will drag the money out of your pocket by stealth.

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1 hour ago, Wylye said:

Not as bad as the media were predicting is it? Not that they were trying to sensationalise the whole thing........

It is if you are an Employer!  Raynor's new workers rights Bill, minimum wage up and NI up and thresholds down.  They will pass on the costs with less jobs so less Tax take for Mrs Thieves.

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15 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said:

It is if you are an Employer!  Raynor's new workers rights Bill, minimum wage up and NI up and thresholds down.  They will pass on the costs with less jobs so less Tax take for Mrs Thieves.

I can see an awful lot of small businesses going under.

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40% relief on buisness rates....good

still retain single person discount on council tax.....good

no extra fuel duty.....good

 

NHS ..dont make me larf...get rid of all the WOK jobs and do central buying properly...thats how you save money

 

i dont think the budget/measures are over...just dont trust Labour...i think they will introduce sneakily (oh by the waay)...more taxes in when we are not looking

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10 minutes ago, marsh man said:

Did I see something about an extra £100 on petrol car road tax :hmm:  MM

First year Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) rates for new cars have been overhauled, with significant rises for certain vehicles from 1st April 2025. According to the Government, the measures have been designed to “strengthen incentives to purchase zero emission and electric cars” by “widening the differentials between zero emission, hybrid and internal combustion engine (ICE) cars.

The biggest news is the ten-fold increase in first-year car tax rates for cars emitting between 1-50g/km of CO2, which includes hybrids. These will increase from the current rate of £10 for petrol and diesel cars (or zero for hybrids) to £110. The vast majority of plug-in hybrid cars fall into this band.

Rates for new cars emitting between 51-75g/km of CO2 will increase from £30 (or £20 for hybrids) to £135. All other rates will double next year, meaning the owner of a new VW Golf 1.5 TSI will pay an extra £220 in the first year. By contrast, a new BMW X5 M60i will have £2,745 added to the cost of the first-year rate.

Standard VED rates for beyond the first year will rise in line with the Retail Price Index (RPI) as is usually the case. The Government will “consider raising” the threshold for the current Expensive Car Supplement for electric cars “only at a future fiscal event”. Currently cars of any type costing over £40,000 when new are liable for an extra £410 a year VED charge for five years after registration.

Furthermore, Benefit-in-Kind tax rates for company cars will be maintained at 2% until 2026. Double-cab pick-ups will also be treated as cars for capital allowances, Benefit-in-Kind taxation and deduction from business profits from April next year.

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2 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said:

First year Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) rates for new cars have been overhauled, with significant rises for certain vehicles from 1st April 2025. According to the Government, the measures have been designed to “strengthen incentives to purchase zero emission and electric cars” by “widening the differentials between zero emission, hybrid and internal combustion engine (ICE) cars.

The biggest news is the ten-fold increase in first-year car tax rates for cars emitting between 1-50g/km of CO2, which includes hybrids. These will increase from the current rate of £10 for petrol and diesel cars (or zero for hybrids) to £110. The vast majority of plug-in hybrid cars fall into this band.

Rates for new cars emitting between 51-75g/km of CO2 will increase from £30 (or £20 for hybrids) to £135. All other rates will double next year, meaning the owner of a new VW Golf 1.5 TSI will pay an extra £220 in the first year. By contrast, a new BMW X5 M60i will have £2,745 added to the cost of the first-year rate.

Standard VED rates for beyond the first year will rise in line with the Retail Price Index (RPI) as is usually the case. The Government will “consider raising” the threshold for the current Expensive Car Supplement for electric cars “only at a future fiscal event”. Currently cars of any type costing over £40,000 when new are liable for an extra £410 a year VED charge for five years after registration.

Furthermore, Benefit-in-Kind tax rates for company cars will be maintained at 2% until 2026. Double-cab pick-ups will also be treated as cars for capital allowances, Benefit-in-Kind taxation and deduction from business profits from April next year.

Many THANKS for the update .      MM    :good:

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1 hour ago, CaptC said:

That's because the MMM is Tory biased in the extreme. Owned by non doms who pay no tax.

No mention (I think) of Lady Mone's millions nor Dido Harding's £37 billion track and trace - oh and Sunak's nice little earner for his wife and Infosis?

At least we 1.7% off a pint!

There was a mention of the covid fraud hunting team. 

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6 minutes ago, Flashman said:

Best wait until Govt. publish the Red Book. 
The really unpalatable stuff is buried in that for the accountants to pick over. 
All I would say is that Labour can’t even lie straight in bed. 

At least they have let the OBR have sight and comment on the budget unlike previous.

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