Scully Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 When I found out I thought this rather ironic as I was recently talking about this in another thread. The biggest town nearest to me is Penrith, a mere 8 miles away, and I know it well, having see it change grow and spread immensely ever since I can recall. Anyhow, the number of houses which have been built in the last 10 years has amazed everyone, and not just in the town but in all the outlying villages I can think of, and it’s still ongoing, including a huge development on a local flood plain right next to the M6. Be interesting to see how that pans out! Our local garage is overwhelmed with business due to the growth, and with most households having more than one car you now have to book well in advance for services, MOT’s etc. Penrith has a Morrisons, Booths, Aldi, Home Bargains, Iceland, M&S, Sainsburys and two B & M’s. Oh, and a Spar; the Co-op closing due to competition some years ago. There have been many calls for another school and another GP’s surgery as the small hospital is rather swamped, but guess what we’re getting, right on the edge of the newest development? Yes! A Tesco! Every little helps! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 People will call that PROGRESS, but it fails to address the necessary bits, like you say GP's surgeries and schools as well as all the other infrastructure desperately needed. Here in Peterborough, building firms buy land and get planning permission by telling the council they will include lots of smaller houses and the very infrastructure required. Then as soon as the building work starts they go back to the council to renegotiate the figures and every time so far the council have allowed the changes. SHOCKING.............................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 The ruddy developers will not be happy until the whole country is totally covered in bricks and mortar. And then they will want to build upwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 To many people to small a country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 When I was working in MK every acre produced £4m. Of this £2m went to schools, buses, doctors, roads etc. Each development had a requirement for social and affordable housing spread within it. LA's are supposed to do this across the country but it's not so easy when dealing with small developers and small developments. Too many competing priorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Hello, Tesco seem to think they can Bulldoze their way in Communities giving no thought to the Citizens or Area, And likely giving a golden hand shake to planners and local Councils, Look what happen on one of Scotland Islands reference Sunday opening, I know a lot of families find it cheaper using a club card but how can Tesco justify the price rises that has been ongoing since Covid , Do they pay the Supplier more ?? , I like my hot cross buns, Tesco now 6 for £1 ,30p , from a £ 1 that was over the weekend, from now on i shall be getting minimum shopping at Tesco and more in Lidl 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 6 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, Tesco seem to think they can Bulldoze their way in Communities giving no thought to the Citizens or Area, And likely giving a golden hand shake to planners and local Councils, Look what happen on one of Scotland Islands reference Sunday opening, I know a lot of families find it cheaper using a club card but how can Tesco justify the price rises that has been ongoing since Covid , Do they pay the Supplier more ?? , I like my hot cross buns, Tesco now 6 for £1 ,30p , from a £ 1 that was over the weekend, from now on i shall be getting minimum shopping at Tesco and more in Lidl 😄 Lidl support Ukraine it has to be a good move. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 54 minutes ago, Scully said: When I found out I thought this rather ironic as I was recently talking about this in another thread. The biggest town nearest to me is Penrith, a mere 8 miles away, and I know it well, having see it change grow and spread immensely ever since I can recall. Anyhow, the number of houses which have been built in the last 10 years has amazed everyone, and not just in the town but in all the outlying villages I can think of, and it’s still ongoing, including a huge development on a local flood plain right next to the M6. Be interesting to see how that pans out! Our local garage is overwhelmed with business due to the growth, and with most households having more than one car you now have to book well in advance for services, MOT’s etc. Penrith has a Morrisons, Booths, Aldi, Home Bargains, Iceland, M&S, Sainsburys and two B & M’s. Oh, and a Spar; the Co-op closing due to competition some years ago. There have been many calls for another school and another GP’s surgery as the small hospital is rather swamped, but guess what we’re getting, right on the edge of the newest development? Yes! A Tesco! Every little helps! 👍 You missed out 'Yorkshire Trading' 😂 We are undergoing a similar transformation. Most of my shooting ground lost to new builds, and the bits that remain are too dangerous to shoot. My biggest gripe has been the massive drop in water pressure. It has been so bad that I contacted UU to check it. Guy came out took pressure readings from an outside tap, nope, all OK. It is within the minimum working pressure, and nothing to do with another new build estate, 1/2 mile away ? I worry about the long term effects on my combi boiler because that can not be replaced either 🙄 Progress hey ! Where would we be without it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 (edited) The growing population has to live and shop somewhere !? 🙄🫤 Edited November 26 by JKD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Same here in south Norfolk with same looking houses going up fast around towns and villages. GP surgeries are struggling to cope with the additional population, schools, hospitals and other essential services likewise. The development sprawl means neighbouring towns are growing ever closer and will surely join into one mass of ticky tacky boxes each with two or more vehicles on their drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 13 minutes ago, oowee said: Lidl support Ukraine it has to be a good move. 🙂 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 I remember Penrith when it only had a Booths, with the Morrisons burning down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 I suspect its more to do with getting more voters in the wards - generating more funds to pay mayors, police commisioners, MP's etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Just now, Dave-G said: I suspect its more to do with getting more voters in the wards - generating more funds to pay mayors, police commisioners, MP's etc. What is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 1 minute ago, oowee said: What is? Assisted population expansion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Just now, Dave-G said: Assisted population expansion 🤣 Oh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 I did mention this very subject a while back with the countryside shrinking at an alarming rate to development , if that wasn't bad enough then we are now losing 1000s of acres to solar panels , only last week it was reported that another 2000 + acre block was going to be solar panels , with us living on the coast you will soon have to go well inland to find some countryside , thankfully not in my time but that is how it will be . MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Our little village is being developed to within an inch of its life, fields turned into a housing estate, every little gap built on, i have a developer who comes round to me every 2 or 3 years asking if I want to sell my property and land, I only have a few acres not big by any means but no doubt a fair few houses could go on it. I have no intention of selling in my life time, my daughter and her family will live here once I’ve gone ,inheritance Tax permitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red696 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 3 hours ago, Westley said: You missed out 'Yorkshire Trading' 😂 We are undergoing a similar transformation. Most of my shooting ground lost to new builds, and the bits that remain are too dangerous to shoot. My biggest gripe has been the massive drop in water pressure. It has been so bad that I contacted UU to check it. Guy came out took pressure readings from an outside tap, nope, all OK. It is within the minimum working pressure, and nothing to do with another new build estate, 1/2 mile away ? I worry about the long term effects on my combi boiler because that can not be replaced either 🙄 Progress hey ! Where would we be without it ? the pressure drop is deliberate, it reduces the leakage. Therefore UU can report the reduction, hit their ODI and claim a financial reward all without fixing any leaks. Only works up to a point, when the whole of the area is at minimum pressure they have no option other than to start digging.. new developments impact sewers much more than they do supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 2 hours ago, countryman said: Our little village is being developed to within an inch of its life, fields turned into a housing estate, every little gap built on, i have a developer who comes round to me every 2 or 3 years asking if I want to sell my property and land, I only have a few acres not big by any means but no doubt a fair few houses could go on it. I have no intention of selling in my life time, my daughter and her family will live here once I’ve gone ,inheritance Tax permitting. Good for you. Amazing how many in a similar situation who would sell and be wealthy but live in one of the little boxes in their old garden because they don’t want to leave the village. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red696 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 3 hours ago, rbrowning2 said: I remember Penrith when it only had a Booths, with the Morrisons burning down. there must be someone on here who remembers it when it only had a castle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirokuMK70 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Round us in the Midlands it's a Greenfield building free for all while brownfield sites stand derelict because it costs the house builders too much profit to build on them. Thousands of ugly, cheaply designed and shoddily built red brick boxes crammed on top of one another to maximise every drop of profit from the land. The local councils very often deny planning permission only for the housebuilders to exercise their corrupt backhanders to central government and get it granted on appeal. It boils my pee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Bishop Auckland in Co Durham has them all plus a few more besides most are out of town but it has grippled the town centre plus family run business once the town had two markets a week on a Thursday and a Saturday with the Saturday one gone by open till 7 pm with the gas lighting. The only advantage is the competition result that the petrol is the cheapest in the area Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Quote new developments impact sewers much more than they do supply. A very valid point which I hadn't considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 1 hour ago, Red696 said: the pressure drop is deliberate, it reduces the leakage. Therefore UU can report the reduction, hit their ODI and claim a financial reward all without fixing any leaks. Only works up to a point, when the whole of the area is at minimum pressure they have no option other than to start digging.. new developments impact sewers much more than they do supply. I am well aware of that. 2 days after UU attended, the pressure is up slightly. I also took the poor guy to task over the lead piping that er.....'doesn't exist' ! He did his best to toe the party line, but as an ex gasfitter and plumber I have probably 'eaten' more lead than the average person, and certainly more than this young man had ever seen. I am pushing 80 and still going 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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