STOP PRESS !!!!!!! MPs Criticise Wealth Hoarding Boomers !!!!!! Are we all living the High Life of Luxury !!!!!!!!!

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, Something to Ponder PW members while having your Breakfast, I worked out the coming Pension increase will be wiped out with all the Cost of Living rises , Energy, Council Tax, Inflation with Supermarket Prices, I could go on!!!!!,   All this while the Younger Generation Struggle !!!!!, Did we not Struggle back in the day, Both working,  Saving for a Mortgage, Buying our Family Homes, Raising our Children, Being their Bank of Mum and Dad so they could get a good start in life !!!!, What say you PW ????  OH this is very Rich !!!! coming from MPs !!!!!

Edited Wednesday at 09:05 by oldypigeonpopper

[bruno22rf]

Hand on heart I worked 8-6, 5 days a week then often overtime on a Saturday, during the week I would get home ,change, then do 7-11 as a kitchen porter (£2.50/hour), weekends we would either pack CD's in a local factory or work on the young farmers catering stand wherever it may be. When we first bought our one bed house within a year we had to rent it out and live with the wife's parents as the mortgage rate shot up. Did all this till my health declined around 20 years ago and my GP stopped me working, I was entitled to nothing because the government doctor said that I could possibly work in a car park where I wouldn't have to walk!!! Took the DHSS to court (with the help of John Bercow) and won my case. I now get less than £70/week to live on before bills so without the wife's pension we would lose everything . Not expecting any violins but if I can do it so can heathy youngsters.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Unfortunately our long held and solid good ways of just getting on and making the best of it are no longer in fashion.

The latest generations expect everything and wish to give nothing. They would have failed in the "old" days.

I see no way of it changing, society, like the country is broken.

[Yellow Bear]

IIRC it was a certain Gordon Brown (Lab), who having robbed the pension funds, had the affront to tell us we were not saving enough for our retirement.  That we did, and are now uncaring wealth hoarders, it is just an excuse to rob us again.

[Red carp]

1 minute ago, Yellow Bear said:

IIRC it was a certain Gordon Brown (Lab), who having robbed the pension funds, had the affront to tell us we were not saving enough for our retirement.  That we did, and are now uncaring wealth hoarders, it is just an excuse to rob us again.

I tell you you are better off blowing all your cash it’s pointless trying to look after yourself makes me mad 😡 the bigger #### you are in life the more help you get. RANT OVER

[Windswept]

The headline on the BBC is this "MPs criticise 'wealth-hoarding' boomers stereotype"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg1e75ddygo

As someone who is currently helping look after an elderly relative I would agree with the comments about the government digitally excluding many from services.

[Poor Shot]

Here come the boomers to claim they worked 86 hours a day, 72 days a week, 155 weeks of the year for 86 years straight, delivered newspapers on the way to and from their 164 hour shift at the **** shoveling plant, ate only a single bean for tea and inhaled the vapors from a used teabag for breakfast and still got by. 

The worlds changed, how people make money has changed. It's a different struggle but the issues are still there. The vast majority of people still aren't earning enough and those that do are having it stolen from them by the government and ultra rich. 

If most of you were to go back to your younger days and tell your past self that one day the minimum wage would be over £12.00 an hour you'd be amazed and excited for the future. If you were to then say that also, your mortgage is going to be £1200 a month for an average 3 bed semi, a basic car would cost over £20k and a meal for two in a pub would set you back over £80 and a pint of beer near £5 then you wouldn't think it so great. 

[oldypigeonpopper]

5 minutes ago, Windswept said:

The headline on the BBC is this "MPs criticise 'wealth-hoarding' boomers stereotype"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg1e75ddygo

As someone who is currently helping look after an elderly relative I would agree with the comments about the government digitally excluding many from services.

Hello, Yes but i did not think i was included in that type of person ( Stereotype !!!! ) 

[DUNKS]

I think we working class oldies did accept that to get a home together you had to struggle I worked seven days a week for many years, an engineering job Mon to Fri and selling caravans at the weekends. My dear wife had three jobs. I dont remember being unhappy life was just as it was. All my friends were in the same boat. Now with an old persons lifestyle everything paid for several pensions and the government pension we manage very nicely thank you but it was a long hard struggle.

[oldypigeonpopper]

21 minutes ago, Poor Shot said:

Here come the boomers to claim they worked 86 hours a day, 72 days a week, 155 weeks of the year for 86 years straight, delivered newspapers on the way to and from their 164 hour shift at the **** shoveling plant, ate only a single bean for tea and inhaled the vapors from a used teabag for breakfast and still got by. 

The worlds changed, how people make money has changed. It's a different struggle but the issues are still there. The vast majority of people still aren't earning enough and those that do are having it stolen from them by the government and ultra rich. 

If most of you were to go back to your younger days and tell your past self that one day the minimum wage would be over £12.00 an hour you'd be amazed and excited for the future. If you were to then say that also, your mortgage is going to be £1200 a month for an average 3 bed semi, a basic car would cost over £20k and a meal for two in a pub would set you back over £80 and a pint of beer near £5 then you wouldn't think it so great. 

Hello, It is all relevant as most people i knew back in the day had 2 jobs and you were lucky to earn £12 a week and paying half that on a Mortgage , 

[scutt]

when will it get thru peoples heeds that the plan is you are paid just enough to live on after taxes.

[TOPGUN749]

24 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, It is all relevant as most people i knew back in the day had 2 jobs and you were lucky to earn £12 a week and paying half that on a Mortgage , 

Yes, sounds familiar,early 90’s take home £450 a month for 180 hours,(£2.87 an hour), paying £210 a month mortgage on a tiny 2 bed house,struggling to keep a banger on the road,and certainly no spare cash for luxury sports like clay shooting. Today it seems many 30 year olds have far more disposable income .

Edited Wednesday at 10:09 by TOPGUN749

[BobbyH]

I Left school in 2006, went straight into work as an apprentice car mechanic. Worked 0830-1730 Mon-Fri with 30 min break, then every other Saturday 0830-1230. Then in 2014 I joined the military, up Untill that’s where I am now. 
 

My pay started on £2.56 an hour in 2006, and I had a moped to run, a phone to pay for an the rest went on board for my parents, with a bit left over for me.

[ditchman]

chat bot reeves has hit my investment in NS&I.....jus more theivery.........

[old man]

They have lots of highway robbery in mind?

Shame they want to spend it everywhere else than at home on our needy?

No doubt their sponsors dictate and reward them?

[ditchman]

you wait until the govt' do "thegreek" and raid our bank acc's and proberly our bottoms as well...

[old man]

1 hour ago, ditchman said:

you wait until the govt' do "thegreek" and raid our bank acc's and proberly our bottoms as well...

*** ditchy don't give them more ideas.

I can think of a few rears that would benefit from  a steel toecapped size 11.

[Pukka Bundook]

Re younger generation, my cousin back home  said,"They want to start where we hope to finish".

I am 71 and still work all days of the week, as I have  a farm and there's only me to do it.!

I'm  gaffer, the labourer and the village idiot!

 

[bruno22rf]

9 hours ago, Poor Shot said:

Here come the boomers to claim they worked 86 hours a day, 72 days a week, 155 weeks of the year for 86 years straight, delivered newspapers on the way to and from their 164 hour shift at the **** shoveling plant, ate only a single bean for tea and inhaled the vapors from a used teabag for breakfast and still got by. 

The worlds changed, how people make money has changed. It's a different struggle but the issues are still there. The vast majority of people still aren't earning enough and those that do are having it stolen from them by the government and ultra rich. 

If most of you were to go back to your younger days and tell your past self that one day the minimum wage would be over £12.00 an hour you'd be amazed and excited for the future. If you were to then say that also, your mortgage is going to be £1200 a month for an average 3 bed semi, a basic car would cost over £20k and a meal for two in a pub would set you back over £80 and a pint of beer near £5 then you wouldn't think it so great. 

Nah, never worked 86 hours a day - could only manage 13 I'm afraid, but as my renal failure took hold I did have to drive 9 miles to work every day holding my eye open as fatigue took hold. The judge at my case stated that both my local council and the DHSS were guilty of professional misconduct and  ordered them to pay compensation plus the money that I was owed (with interest), just saying if your post was aimed at me.

[Poor Shot]

11 minutes ago, bruno22rf said:

Nah, never worked 86 hours a day - could only manage 13 I'm afraid, but as my renal failure took hold I did have to drive 9 miles to work every day holding my eye open as fatigue took hold. The judge at my case stated that both my local council and the DHSS were guilty of professional misconduct and  ordered them to pay compensation plus the money that I was owed (with interest), just saying if your post was aimed at me.

It wasn't. These threads always go one way with one trying to out do another on how rough they had and the young ones would be all good if only they didn't buy coffee and mobile phones.

Sorry to hear about your situation and I'm glad it got corrected in the end.

[Pushandpull]

This thread completely misses the point. MPs (womens and equality committee) were actually criticising the stereotype of pensioners being either rich or frail old things. They also criticised the "digital exclusion" which affects many older folk who struggle to keep up with technology.

[Yellow Bear]

1 hour ago, Pushandpull said:

This thread completely misses the point. MPs (womens and equality committee) were actually criticising the stereotype of pensioners being either rich or frail old things. They also criticised the "digital exclusion" which affects many older folk who struggle to keep up with technology.

Sadly they are not the majority of "socialist" (lab and limp dump) who in fact foster the rich idea to the MSM.

Edited yesterday at 08:36 by Yellow Bear

[sitsinhedges]

18 hours ago, bruno22rf said:

Nah, never worked 86 hours a day - could only manage 13 I'm afraid, but as my renal failure took hold I did have to drive 9 miles to work every day holding my eye open as fatigue took hold. The judge at my case stated that both my local council and the DHSS were guilty of professional misconduct and  ordered them to pay compensation plus the money that I was owed (with interest), just saying if your post was aimed at me.

How are your kidneys holding up now? I didn't think transplants lasted forever. 

[Mice!]

17 hours ago, Poor Shot said:

wasn't. These threads always go one way with one trying to out do another on how rough they had and the young ones would be all good if only they didn't buy coffee and mobile phones.

I always say on these threads that we were brought up knowing that if you wanted something then it had to be saved for and earned, there certainly wasn't cash available for takeaway every week or as you say buying coffee at stupid prices, if the car or washing machine broke it was a disaster, and the one holiday a year was a caravan trip to Cornwall which we loved, certainly not multiple foreign holidays.

I'm not 50 yet either so don't fall into the old person category like a lot on here, yes things were very different back in the 80s but I don't think they were worse.

[Penelope]

12 minutes ago, Mice! said:

yes things were very different back in the 80s but I don't think they were worse.

They were far better, in general.