24 Grams V 28 Grams?

[deershooter]

Well the 24 gram 9 worked well used 50 at Orston World sporting and picked up a place win for 7th overall with the handicap system a couple of slabs of 8 and 7.5 next week will be requirered

 

Deershooter

Edited April 21, 2013 by deershooter

[sitsinhedges]

Just going down the 24 gram route as I have 10 kg of Vectan AS24 just on the first slab of 9 shot loaded

 

Deershooter

 

That would make you a jammy ***.

[Guest cookoff013]

how on earth did you get the AS24? that and lowsonic would have been my first choice to have a go with.

but couldnt get hold of any.

[deershooter]

from a member on here you just have to be quick ,just got enough for just under 10,000 but thats less than 7 months shooting

 

75 Wednesdays

100 Saturdays

150 sundays

 

Deershooter

[MITCHF]

I've just tried heading a slab of 28g Eley first, got a right headache, it's true

Unless it's cause they're ELEY, maybe a different brand would be better...............................................

[Towngun]

"Heading the ball hits you in the head, and recoil hits you in the shoulder"

 

On the issue of recoil do remember the reduction to 28 grams was on the basis of health. Also, watch a slow motion video of the impact of recoil on the whole body including the head. The brain is held in a fluid within the brain box. It is a valid debate to suggest recoil could have an impact on health just as it does in boxing and football.

 

 

[hillmouse]

Shoot what you are comfortable with. The best cartridge is normally the one which gives you confidence. It is difficult to buy a "bad " cartridge these days.

More clays are missed by human error, bad technique, poor gun mount and failure to read the target than by the "wrong" cartridge.

 

I use as light a load as will do the job, typically a 24g in 12 bore, 19 or 21 g in 20 bore and it has improved my scores and eased the recoil issue on a long standing shoulder injury.

 

Olympic skeet and Olympic trap are shot with 24g loads very successfully and an OT target is pretty tough by anyones standards but they seem to break well enough if the pattern is on them. Could be a clue there.

[Towngun]

Sport-related concussion is a hot potato in the medical world. The issue/risk of recoil is recognised and was behind the drive to the reduction to 28 grams some years back. If you take a shooting video and then slow the speed you can then see the physical impact on the head following a shotgun blast. The brain in its natural state is a jelly like form - too soft to work with, but it can be hardened by immersion in alcohol.Common sense will suggest that reducing such an impact is a good idea. I don't know of any medical studies but remember there was a time when the risks of smoking went unrecognised. Thus common sense should suggest that a softer recoil - perhaps via 24 grams, may well have long term health benefits.

[Jega]

I use 21g whenever I can and it doesn't seem to effect my scores.....only my pocket.

 

How about 21g No 9's

I use 21g whenever I can and it doesn't seem to effect my scores.....only my pocket.

 

How about 21g No 9's

Perfect for skeet .

[jamie101]

last sunday i used my usual 21g comp x for a 25 bird shoot then i used some 28g velocitys for my sencond round of 25 birds,

MASSIVE difference in my opinion!

the comp x are exelent on the recoil side and shoot loads better in my opinion where as the 28g gave my sholder a bit of a kick and i diddent hit as many clays on my second 25 birds!

my dad, my girlfriend and ODD TIMES (my 10 year old son) shoot the comp x 21's all the time,

at our local gunshop we pay £40.50 for a slab of comp x fibers, and me personally think theyre exelent!

[Berettacocker]

Jeff Astle used to head the old footballs with the bootlace in( like medicine balls when wet! ) probably like shooting 42 grams through a light side by side! My friends young son uses 24gm 7.5 on game, and kills driven pheasant and partridge very well indeed!

[manxman]

Recently started competitive clays shooting after a gap of several years. Bought a slab each of Saga 24g 7.5 & 9's for sporting & skeet a few weeks back. I have seen a near 10% increase in scores with them as against 28's. Makes one wonder.

[-Mongrel-]

I too moved down to RC 24's from RC 28's due to an injury and found my scores improving. Still shoot them now and my scores haven't regressed.

 

How much of that is down to it being softer and therefore easier shooting, allowing a more comfortable and relaxed shooting experience is, I still feel, a part of the debate.

[robbiep]

Certainly makes sense - a lighter load means less time and movement to recover from the recoil and get moving onto the next target

[Brian Rosier]

Hi I normally use the 28 -7.5  Olympic sport and I average 18-23 out of 25 , and today I used 24-7.5 my average went down to about 10 out of 25 could that be I’ve just gone an off day or are the cartridges worse? 

[Smokersmith]

20 hours ago, Brian Rosier said:

Hi I normally use the 28 -7.5  Olympic sport and I average 18-23 out of 25 , and today I used 24-7.5 my average went down to about 10 out of 25 could that be I’ve just gone an off day or are the cartridges worse? 

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[Stimo22]

I brought 500 21g gamebore evo to try on clays and they are brilliant and will now use for most of my clay shooting. Much less recoil in my Beretta and kill at surprising range. Just stick a few 28g in pocket for really long clays

[mossy835]

i fined the 21 gram, good on pigeons as well.

[enfieldspares]

If a 13/16 ounce 20 Bore can kill game (the once standard 2 1/2" load for a 20 Bore) then I see no reason why the same loading in 12 Bore should work just as well.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Gordon Bennett!

[Lloyd90]

On 25/03/2013 at 23:25, evo said:

£10 per 1000 cheaper think i,d stick with the 28g

Considering the time input, the fuel, travel, stopping for a coffee, breakfast or whatever, shooting 24g carts instead of 28g in order to save money (totally about 25p saving per box) almost seems ludicrous.