Could China's Island-Building Spark War?

[old'un]

Should we be worried about China and US war or is it just sabre rattling on both sides.

Global Times, a tabloid newspaper run by the Communist Party, said that China might have to “accept” there would be conflict with the United States.
“If the United States’ bottom line is that China has to halt its activities, then a US-China war is inevitable in the South China Sea”, said the paper, which is often seen as a mouth-piece of hardline nationalists in the government in Beijing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/11630185/US-China-war-inevitable-unless-Washington-drops-demands-over-South-China-Sea.html

[oldypigeonpopper]

hello, they are no different than russia using their power to take over countries/land/islands was not tibet an own state?

[Scully]

To be perfectly honest, I no longer care.

[grrclark]

It is sabre rattling and very little else, the US feel duty bound to posture about China's activities and i'm sure the appreciate the hypocrisy of their protest as well given their historical behaviour in establishing military points of presence all around the world.

[oldypigeonpopper]

hello, they are no different than russia using their power to take over countries/land/islands was not tibet an own state?

and according to many reports china www.freetibet is interesting to read

[old'un]

It is sabre rattling and very little else, the US feel duty bound to posture about China's activities and i'm sure the appreciate the hypocrisy of their protest as well given their historical behaviour in establishing military points of presence all around the world.

But is it not possible we could get a situation like that with Turkey downing a Russian plane.

[islandgun]

To be perfectly honest, I no longer care.

[old'un]

To be perfectly honest, I no longer care.

Funny that's how I feel when I have had a wee dram or two

[Hamster]

It is sabre rattling and very little else, the US feel duty bound to posture about China's activities and i'm sure the appreciate the hypocrisy of their protest as well given their historical behaviour in establishing military points of presence all around the world.

 

On the money, merica can't be seen not showing an interest but there is no precedent of their attacking countries that can fight back. Going back to a comment I made on another thread, the world is changing and America's dominance is on the wane in no uncertain terms, Trump and the hatred he so easily appears to be able to whip up are further signs that many are finding it a hard reality to come to terms with.

Edited December 15, 2015 by Hamster

[Gordon R]

I'm with Hamster on this.

[Konnie]

With the two above, they now shout loud enough so they don't draw too much attention to the problem, when the new big boys are in the playground.

[malkiserow]

Given Taiwans' history, they are chancing their luck with this one with such a southern territory. If the US are supporting Taiwan, they are even dummer than I thought. They all like to sabre rattle in the South China seas. There was a spat 3 or 4 years ago but that just shot shells over the bows of other ships ..... nobody got hit.

[E.w.]

To be perfectly honest, I no longer care.

At least you're in the real world, I totally agree with you.

[Zapp]

Given Taiwans' history, they are chancing their luck with this one with such a southern territory. If the US are supporting Taiwan, they are even dummer than I thought. They all like to sabre rattle in the South China seas. There was a spat 3 or 4 years ago but that just shot shells over the bows of other ships ..... nobody got hit.

 

The Chinese are far from dumb, and a lot of their military tech has got the US looking at its own stuff and getting pretty concerned.

[Pistol p]

I take it the Americans don't acknowledge what happened at Diego Garcia and similar ex British colonies in the last century then.

[hambone]

I think it's if not when china flexes it's military muscle. Best the west can hope for is political change within China

[Whitebridges]

 

The Chinese are far from dumb, and a lot of their military tech has got the US looking at its own stuff and getting pretty concerned.

 

In fact their gear is cutting edge. All this is about is a little muscle flexing and the "new" China putting a hand in the water.

 

Strategically they would like a fixed Aircraft Carrier in this area so have decided to build one.

 

We found Cyprus handy recently for the very same reason but in a very different circumstance.

[malkiserow]

 

In fact their gear is cutting edge. All this is about is a little muscle flexing and the "new" China putting a hand in the water.

 

Strategically they would like a fixed Aircraft Carrier in this area so have decided to build one.

 

We found Cyprus handy recently for the very same reason but in a very different circumstance.

 

Did you notice they only seem too be active in matters close to home and that matter to them in, admittedly disputed, waters they believe are under their authority.

 

They do not appear to interfere in matters out of what they believe is their territory..... This policy (I am presuming it to be policy) or perhaps just behaviour is the polar opposite of the approach taken by the US.

[Banger123]

To be perfectly honest, I no longer care.

+1

[Whitebridges]

 

Did you notice they only seem too be active in matters close to home and that matter to them in, admittedly disputed, waters they believe are under their authority.

 

They do not appear to interfere in matters out of what they believe is their territory..... This policy (I am presuming it to be policy) or perhaps just behaviour is the polar opposite of the approach taken by the US.

 

Yes.

I have spent the last five years dealing with and doing business with Chinese people. They are very open about how they would prefer to operate. The Chinese government also know's what needs to be done.

Edited December 15, 2015 by Whitebridges

[digger]

No. If we ran around panicking every time there was a to do we would be lost. Cast your mind back on here when the Russian jet was shot down - it was the start of ww3. Same when it kicked off in the Crimea A lot of doom mongers or pessimists.

[welsh1]

To be perfectly honest, I no longer care.

YEP

[Longbower]

If the Chinese make their military equipment , like all the rest of the junk they ship out ,They wont get far.

[rbrowning2]

 

And a Russian rocket just put Tim on the ISS, the Americans are not the power they once were and will likely never be again.

[Penelope]

That will all change in Africa at some point.

 

At the moment I suspect corruption and bribery, of which both China and Africa are adept, covers things.

 

 

Did you notice they only seem too be active in matters close to home and that matter to them in, admittedly disputed, waters they believe are under their authority.

 

They do not appear to interfere in matters out of what they believe is their territory..... This policy (I am presuming it to be policy) or perhaps just behaviour is the polar opposite of the approach taken by the US.

Edited December 16, 2015 by Penelope