walshie Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Why did it take so long for the whiners to come up with these accusations? They really are clutching at straws now. And anyone who thinks either campaign swayed anyone is having a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 45 minutes ago, PPP said: I didn't like the six nations results and most of my wagers at Cheltenham didn't win, can these be re-run please? Nor me, I thought Italy deserved the fifth place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, walshie said: Why did it take so long for the whiners to come up with these accusations? They really are clutching at straws now. And anyone who thinks either campaign swayed anyone is having a laugh. This occurred to me too! Why wait until now?......Who is gaining what out of this "revelation"? Someone will be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yod dropper Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 But the great thing is there won't be another vote. Just more bleating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 2 hours ago, scolopax said: Well it seems to be all coming out now.....looks like a good enough reason for a second referendum http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43558876 No ....the people had the final vote..... Accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Let's just keep voting untill we get the right answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 One is just getting a bit fed up with this bunch of retarded apes who don't like the idea of leaving the EU. We had the vote, they lost, they didn't like it and trumped up that much **** about it. ENOUGH THANKS, WE ARE LEAVING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 4 hours ago, scolopax said: Well it seems to be all coming out now.....looks like a good enough reason for a second referendum http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43558876 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) I don't see it as leaving, to me its more like escaping. I was in Holland a couple of weeks back and they are chomping at the bit to go for all the same reasons. They however are locked into the Euro which makes it much harder for them. Also a lot of trans Europe trains and roads run through Holland and a lot of EU exports go through the Dutch container ports. So they are stuck. They admire us greatly for doing it, they think we have been brave, they are full on behind us with Brexit. I think they are more excited about it than we are. A lot of the EU is smoke and mirrors, when you cut through all the hype about the single market you realise our trade with all the countries is either non existent because they have no money or adverse. Germany sells us so many cars but it illegally subsidises its steel industry. France is France and always will be. Edited March 27, 2018 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 What you also will find is there is a lot of people who wanted to remain in Europe, but respect the referendum. I am one of those people. However i’m sick to death of people who “wanted out” and got what they desired, telling me how great it’s going to be, before it happens. I’m more than happy to be told so, when it does...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, markm said: However i’m sick to death of people who “wanted out” and got what they desired, telling me how great it’s going to be, before it happens. With respect Mark probable not as sick as those who won the vote are of being told by those that did not want to leave (but lost the vote), and the biased media, how terrible it is going to be when we leave and whilst doing so trying to confound the democratic vote by any means fair or foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 Quote ifs and ans the whole process is so smeared that the only way to decide this once and for all is to have another vote asap, no campaigning, just print off the voting papers and open the polls for a day. Whats to be scared of? Let's have a second, third or fourth referendum until the Remain numpties get their way. They won't stop blubbing until they win. Truly and utterly pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 47 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Let's have a second, third or fourth referendum until the Remain numpties get their way. They won't stop blubbing until they win. Truly and utterly pathetic. Ah, but if the remainers won, I'd be blubbing like a spoilt kid for the 5th and 6th referendum until we won AGAIN. We could be some time..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 13 hours ago, Vince Green said: Well for a start the millions of remain leaflets that Cameron had printed and delivered to every house in the land at taxpayers expense. That money never went through the remain campaign's books did it? Correct; the remain campaign had the full force of the 'Government machine' at its disposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 8 hours ago, markm said: What you also will find is there is a lot of people who wanted to remain in Europe, but respect the referendum. I am one of those people. True for me as well. However, what annoys me now is not those (winners) telling me how great it will be to be 'out', but those (losers) trying to thwart the result and remain 'in'. IF the vote was re-run (and I do hope it is not), I would now vote out - because the negotiating stance taken by the EU has revealed so much about them I dislike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: True for me as well. However, what annoys me now is not those (winners) telling me how great it will be to be 'out', but those (losers) trying to thwart the result and remain 'in'. IF the vote was re-run (and I do hope it is not), I would now vote out - because the negotiating stance taken by the EU has revealed so much about them I dislike. I agree about the stance and they have shown their true colours. It’s changed my mind slightly (probably because I don’t like change). But it was to be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: True for me as well. However, what annoys me now is not those (winners) telling me how great it will be to be 'out', but those (losers) trying to thwart the result and remain 'in'. IF the vote was re-run (and I do hope it is not), I would now vote out - because the negotiating stance taken by the EU has revealed so much about them I dislike. You are, in my opinion, quite correct about the revelation of the attitude of the EU. Absolutely disgraceful but not unexpected? Just need to remember it's not the attitude of the people mainly just their unelected 'Euroscrats' trying to hang on to their 6 star lifestyles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, old man said: You are, in my opinion, quite correct about the revelation of the attitude of the EU. Absolutely disgraceful but not unexpected? Just need to remember it's not the attitude of the people mainly just their unelected 'Euroscrats' trying to hang on to their 6 star lifestyles? Its not just about their attitude to us over Brexit, in some ways that is to be expected because we are the goose that lays golden eggs and their sums don't add up without us. What is perhaps more alarming is the way they are treating Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal over their financial difficulties. There is no element of partnership or support, much of their problem has come about because of their membership of the Euro but they get no help. In fact the EU seems to take pleasure in making things as tough for them as it possibly can. Classic bullying as far as I can see. These countries don't have a way out unless they leave the Euro and the EU won't allow that. So do we want to remain and be forced to join the Euro too? because that is the plan, all countries must join the Euro by 2025 allegedly. Surrender control of our army by 2025 as well? One of the terms of the original Maastrict Treaty. How many countries conform to this? Or were conforming when they were allowed to join? One of the obligations of the treaty for the members was to keep "sound fiscal policies, with debt limited to 60% of GDP and annual deficits no greater than 3% of GDP".[4] So Edited March 28, 2018 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Its not just about their attitude to us over Brexit, in some ways that is to be expected because we are the goose that lays golden eggs and their sums don't add up without us. What is perhaps more alarming is the way they are treating Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal over their financial difficulties. There is no element of partnership or support, much of their problem has come about because of their membership of the Euro but they get no help. In fact the EU seems to take pleasure in making things as tough for them as it possibly can. Classic bullying as far as I can see. These countries don't have a way out unless they leave the Euro and the EU won't allow that. So do we want to remain and be forced to join the Euro too? because that is the plan, all countries must join the Euro by 2025 allegedly. Surrender control of our army by 2025 as well? Spot on, its not a voluntary trade organisation anymore, Im not sure it ever was. Its shown itself to be an economic prison, where the inmates are rationed to starvation, and forced into political and social brainwashing. A virtual gulag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Spot on, its not a voluntary trade organisation anymore, Im not sure it ever was. Its shown itself to be an economic prison, where the inmates are rationed to starvation, and forced into political and social brainwashing. A virtual gulag. I actually don't believe that Gordon Brown's signature on the Lisburn Treaty is legal. He never had a mandate and he was sneaked in the back door (literally apparently) and signed it in secret after all the other delegates had left. Is that the action of a person who was acting with a clear conscience? He knew that if he had put it to the country it would have been rejected out of hand. My friend Alan has always referred to the EU as The Fourth Reich, it used to be said as a joke but its said a lot more seriously now and people don't laugh any more when he says it, they nod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 It has been known as that for a long time amongst my family and friends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: Spot on, its not a voluntary trade organisation anymore, Im not sure it ever was. Its shown itself to be an economic prison, where the inmates are rationed to starvation, and forced into political and social brainwashing. A virtual gulag. Correct but all done in the most devious way. Talk about modern slavery? As for Gordy skulking in the back door, no suprise there, the gold was too heavy to carry up the front step? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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