Zetter Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 It looks like Lincolnshire Police have following the example of police Scotland and are now demanding a medical report before Grant or Renewal. https://www.lincs.police.uk/news-campaigns/news/2017/changes-to-firearms-licencing-to-boost-public-safety/?hootPostID=29474b830fc8cc39ccf94c77c9fa5ce5 Didnt think it would take long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 it will catch on with the rest,it was just time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 It would be nice to think that the initiative was for a genuine reason. I can't escape the feeling that someone is out to make a name for themself - "First Force in the country etc". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Would like to see the medical report of that shooter down in the Met last night ...bet he/she didn't need one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) officialdom loves red tape, why do something the easy way? Edited April 4, 2018 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) This was ALWAYS going to happen , it’s basc that’s been filling everyone’s heads with “ don’t pay , they can’t make you blah blah blah “ we will fight it . Blah blah blah . Hmmmm, yeah whatever . Let’s see how you do going up against Lincolnshire ! Oh wait they took absolutely no notice of you what so ever , just like all the other forces are going to . I cant think of any key issues that BASC has ever won outright . or without sacrificing some other part of our sport . Sooner people relalise that weve got do as we’re told , NOT what BASC says we should do the better . You wait give it a couple of days and they be spouting off again about how we should do this and not do that . Launch another pointless campaign, wasting more members money . How we should all be writing to our MPs ( my MP don’t give a toss about shooting , so who do I complain to ?) They have about as much political power as our local woman’s institute . Until we get proper representation by an organisation that is willing to spend money in areas where it should be spent and show its teeth . We should just enjoy what we have while we have it ? Maybe the 150,000 members they reckon they have should all stop there direct debits for a month just to give them a wake up call . Basc you get paid millions of pounds per year to fight for your members , now is the time ! Edited April 4, 2018 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, stevo said: This was ALWAYS going to happen , it’s basc that’s been filling everyone’s heads with “ don’t pay , they can’t make you blah blah blah “ we will fight it . Blah blah blah . Hmmmm, yeah whatever . Let’s see how you do going up against Lincolnshire ! Oh wait they took absolutely no notice of you what so ever , just like all the other forces are going to . I cant think of any key issues that BASC has ever won outright . or without sacrificing some other part of our sport . Sooner people relalise that weve got do as we’re told , NOT what BASC says we should do the better . You wait give it a couple of days and they be spouting off again about how we should do this and not do that . Launch another pointless campaign, wasting more members money . How we should all be writing to our MPs ( my MP don’t give a toss about shooting , so who do I complain to ?) They have about as much political power as our local woman’s institute . Until we get proper representation by an organisation that is will to spend money in areas where it should be spent and show its teeth . We should just enjoy what we have while we have it ? Maybe the 150,000 members they reckon they have should all stop there direct debits for a month just to give them a wake up call . Basc you get paid millions of pounds per year to fight for your members , now is the time ! very good strong point, lets see how basc get around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 There will be an update on our website early tomorrow David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samboy Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 There must be a few shooters who have never been to a Doctor how do they get on ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, David BASC said: There will be an update on our website early tomorrow David Watching and waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clodhopper Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Are we going to see compulsory medicals before obtaining a driving license, I very much doubt it. At least we will all be safe in the knowledge that these new tighter gun control measures will put an end to gun crime! Complete rubbish. As said above some pleb trying to make a name for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Watching and waiting. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 This is tantamount to blackmail! If gun owners don't pay a third party.........no certificate!......Effectively arbitrarily increasing the cost to the public of £40-£50 for the process of obtaining a certificate. It seems the police have declared UDI from the government and their primary purpose is now making law...........not enforcing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Well, if BASC don't knuckle down and sort this out their membership may well vote with their wallets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 It is now apparent this issue has never been resolved; nor does it seem it is going to be anytime soon. How on earth police should be allowed to dictate policy like this, is beyond me. I wonder what would be the result if shooters simply refused to comply? After all, the police authority in question is acting against agreed HO guidance....isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Scully said: It is now apparent this issue has never been resolved; nor does it seem it is going to be anytime soon. How on earth police should be allowed to dictate policy like this, is beyond me. I wonder what would be the result if shooters simply refused to comply? After all, the police authority in question is acting against agreed HO guidance....isn't it? But the issue has been resolved, no medical check = no certificate. Who’s going to tell the chief constable NO ? BASC ? Get used to it boys and girls . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Scully said: I wonder what would be the result if shooters simply refused to comply? They wouldn't get their licence's and couldn't legally hold firearms. I'm sure the force in question aren't bothered about the former and would be more than happy to investigate the latter. Face it, there really isn't anything we can do. We are a minority and we have little support from the non shooting voting public who along with most of the police would rather we didn't have guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) There is no legal requirement to be registered with a GP. More and more people in London now use these non NHS walk in medical centres like Push Doctor where you pay about £20 but see a doctor straight away, and who can blame them? Edited April 4, 2018 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemFandango Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 hours ago, stevo said: This was ALWAYS going to happen , it’s basc that’s been filling everyone’s heads with “ don’t pay , they can’t make you blah blah blah “ we will fight it . Blah blah blah . Hmmmm, yeah whatever . Let’s see how you do going up against Lincolnshire ! Oh wait they took absolutely no notice of you what so ever , just like all the other forces are going to . I cant think of any key issues that BASC has ever won outright . or without sacrificing some other part of our sport . Sooner people relalise that weve got do as we’re told , NOT what BASC says we should do the better . You wait give it a couple of days and they be spouting off again about how we should do this and not do that . Launch another pointless campaign, wasting more members money . How we should all be writing to our MPs ( my MP don’t give a toss about shooting , so who do I complain to ?) They have about as much political power as our local woman’s institute . Until we get proper representation by an organisation that is willing to spend money in areas where it should be spent and show its teeth . We should just enjoy what we have while we have it ? Maybe the 150,000 members they reckon they have should all stop there direct debits for a month just to give them a wake up call . Basc you get paid millions of pounds per year to fight for your members , now is the time ! Quite right. BASC are a waste of space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 hours ago, David BASC said: There will be an update on our website early tomorrow David I hope its an announcement of decisive action. Take them to court. We have enough money in the account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Any update saying that "We have been involved in discussions or we will have another word with them" will be as much use as a chocolate fireguard. A legal challenge is probably the only way to get it sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 9 hours ago, stevo said: But the issue has been resolved, no medical check = no certificate. Who’s going to tell the chief constable NO ? BASC ? Get used to it boys and girls . But the issue was resolved between the BMA, the policethe HO and shooting reps wasn’t it? I know the BMA has reneged on this, but how do the police get away with interpreting this as making up their own requirements? What they are doing isn’t part of the firearms licensing act. It implies what we’ve all known from the start, that this is merely an @@@@ covering exercise on their part and nothing more. It does absolutely nothing to ensure the general public are protected. GP’s were informed that in no way could they be held responsible for the actions of an applicant yet the police are obviously concerned with the finger being pointed at them if and when the wheels come off. With their past record they’re going to look for someone to blame. But I totally agree this is yet another requirement we’ll be forced to suck up and fork out for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 i wonder what the list of conditions / circumstances that forbid firearm ownership? what is the actual interpretation of said information? https://www.bma.org.uk/advice/employment/ethics/ethics-a-to-z/firearms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy1950 Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 This news isn't any surprise, Lincolnshire Police announced this very topic on Countryfile around 6 weeks ago. I trust BASC and the other shooting organisations took it on board then to prepare their counter actions, to get ahead of the game, but I doubt it some how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robden Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 16 hours ago, David BASC said: There will be an update on our website early tomorrow David "WOW!!" https://basc.org.uk/blog/press-releases/featured-news/basc-statement-on-lincolnshire-police/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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