Okrang Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) Be careful out there people! https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/perth-kinross/857260/italian-national-believed-to-have-been-killed-in-perthshire-shooting-accident/ Edited March 27, 2019 by Okrang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Raises a strange question, if these were tourists, going out on a paid day like some pigeon shooters advertise, would the organiser be liable? And would he be covered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gameking Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Also one in the Daily Mail today (yeah, I Know😓) of a Swedish night hunter shooting a jogger 😱 using an 'electronic scope' - police looking at attempted murder charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 The Italians generally do not have our rigid gun safety rules drilled into them the way we do. I can't really say it an more politely than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Very rarely a genuine accident and carelessness is involved but the sheeple do not accept somebody may be responsible. Unfortunately these people bring disrepute on all of us as in New Zealand, ALL gun owners are now going to get slated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Ouch... Very close to an old permission of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townie Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 A beater where I shoot told me that he’s very wary of anyone from Southern Europe. I shot with a Russian last season who wasn’t exactly dangerous, but he certainly wasn’t as careful as the rest of us. I think Vince is right - it’s drilled into us more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 shot Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Interesting question about liability though.Most shoots i've been on in the last 5 years or so have asked for proof of insurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 19 hours ago, strimmer_13 said: Raises a strange question, if these were tourists, going out on a paid day like some pigeon shooters advertise, would the organiser be liable? And would he be covered? I would imagine the estate/sporting agent would have it all stitched up, Italians and others have a lot of bad press dished out at them and I have seen it first hand, but I think in this case it loks likely that the gun was left with the safety off, which is the usual choice for Italian shooters visiting this country for sport shooting. If it had been a member of the public entering the field and getting shot it may be the estate/agent at fault for not putting up signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) Many years ago we were taken to a clay shoot in Cyprus, it was supposed to be a treat from the people we were staying with. It was a fairly big and formal club, not just a few traps in a field. The gun handling / safety was absolutely appalling. People walking about with closed guns, swinging them round pointing at people. I saw one man finish his stand with a first barrel kill and then proceed to walk off the point with his gun closed and presumably the second barrel still loaded. Nobody seemed to think it was any way unusual Its an entirely different culture, a bit like 'real men' don't wear seat belts over there. Edited March 28, 2019 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Ranges in the USA are full with Europeans and a ton of Asians renting guns. Asians love guns and are extremely dangerous. I have literally seen them look down the barrel to see if it was loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, NoBodyImportant said: Ranges in the USA are full with Europeans and a ton of Asians renting guns. Asians love guns and are extremely dangerous. I have literally seen them look down the barrel to see if it was loaded. Yep, back along before crimps you could even see the shot size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 9 hours ago, wymberley said: Yep, back along before crimps you could even see the shot size. NOW NOW Behave!😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, DUNKS said: NOW NOW Behave!😊 Still the best "put down" ever. "Oh, good morning, Colonel, I see you're using 6s today", said the 'keeper looking down the officer's barrels which with the gun closed and which were pointing everywhere where they shouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 14 hours ago, wymberley said: Yep, back along before crimps you could even see the shot size. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 16 hours ago, wymberley said: Still the best "put down" ever. "Oh, good morning, Colonel, I see you're using 6s today", said the 'keeper looking down the officer's barrels which with the gun closed and which were pointing everywhere where they shouldn't. I would have loved to have seen the colonels face! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taileron Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 On 28/03/2019 at 09:57, Vince Green said: Many years ago we were taken to a clay shoot in Cyprus, it was supposed to be a treat from the people we were staying with. It was a fairly big and formal club, not just a few traps in a field. The gun handling / safety was absolutely appalling. People walking about with closed guns, swinging them round pointing at people. I saw one man finish his stand with a first barrel kill and then proceed to walk off the point with his gun closed and presumably the second barrel still loaded. Nobody seemed to think it was any way unusual Its an entirely different culture, a bit like 'real men' don't wear seat belts over there. I have recently returned from Cyprus and can concur with your observations. We lived on the island for an extended period and so appalling was the general safety I only went out a couple of times and then decided it was time to quit. Whilst out rough shooting on the very edge of a permission near the dam, the owner of the land observed some other Cypriots shooting on the wrong side of the fence line, which is non shooting land and about 1000 signs tell you this. Rather than walk across and have a word he decided to blast a couple of barrels into the ground about 4 ft in front of us, as a warning. Absolutely mental over there, just go around the dam and try to count how many signs a riddles with holes. Needless to say, I never went out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 13, 2019 Report Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Taileron said: I have recently returned from Cyprus and can concur with your observations. We lived on the island for an extended period and so appalling was the general safety I only went out a couple of times and then decided it was time to quit. Whilst out rough shooting on the very edge of a permission near the dam, the owner of the land observed some other Cypriots shooting on the wrong side of the fence line, which is non shooting land and about 1000 signs tell you this. Rather than walk across and have a word he decided to blast a couple of barrels into the ground about 4 ft in front of us, as a warning. Absolutely mental over there, just go around the dam and try to count how many signs a riddles with holes. Needless to say, I never went out again. 😀 You don't have to go abroad to see shot up signs ! The sign informing people they are entering the small hamlet of Barras on Stainmore is riddled with CF holes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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