poontang Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 So it seems the EU have decided that all new cars sold in Europe (and the UK have agreed to follow suit) from 2022 will have to be fitted with speed limiters to automatically stop drivers from breaking speed limits. Irrespective of the obvious 'big brother' connotations how will this play out with car manufacturers across the continent? Surely anyone thinking of buying a new car will be less likely to stump up their hard earned for a new Ferrari/Porshe/Maserati etc if they can't get past Mrs.Miggins from Basingstoke in her Renault Twingo on the M25. I'm pretty sure new car sales will take a nosedive when this is forced upon consumers as people buy secondhand, or keep faith with what they already drive. I really can't see the big German, French and Italian car manufacturers being too enthralled by this. What does everyone else think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) Ah, that'll please the elitist Germans who will be in charge of the European population: Found on Google: 'While most countries across the world have imposed upper speed limits, Germany is among a small number of countries, including Afghanistan and North Korea, not to follow suit. According to European Transport Safety Council (ETSC), 52% of the German highways don't have speed limits' Edited March 28, 2019 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 BIG Brother is watching YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 who the hell is going to spend £60,000 plus on a nice posh car only to be overtaken by a 30 year old dirty landrover.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 In the article I read it said that the limited can be overridden by pressing the accelerator. Well I never 🤦🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, ditchman said: who the hell is going to spend £60,000 plus on a nice posh car only to be overtaken by a 30 year old dirty landrover.......... Old Landrover prices might well go up AGAIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoozer Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 The only thing this will do is give the Hackers another income stream, Roll up, Roll up for your chipped speed limiter only 30 Bob a pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, ditchman said: who the hell is going to spend £60,000 plus on a nice posh car only to be overtaken by a 30 year old dirty landrover.......... ..........................on the back of a breakdown truck ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Westley said: ..........................on the back of a breakdown truck ? wash yer mouth out you dirty boy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 👍 👍 😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Apparently they can be turned off by the driver or overridden by pressing the pedal hard. Not the end of the world. The cars so have to be ready to take an alcohol lock out to stop drink drivers and those the car thinks are drunk. Roll on driverless cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, ditchman said: who the hell is going to spend £60,000 plus on a nice posh car only to be overtaken by a 30 year old dirty landrover.......... But first you have to have the Land Rover running 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 More wonderful EU legislation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Ignoring the BB aspect for the time being, it wont have any effect on me as I’m a Defender owner, and I don’t speed anyhow. 🙂 Will it just apply to cars or all vehicles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Jaymo said: But first you have to have the Land Rover running 🙂 you and me are going to fall out.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Drip drip drip. Once civil liberties go, they never come back. George Orwell, a man of insight and vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mungler said: Drip drip drip. Once civil liberties go, they never come back. George Orwell, a man of insight and vision. Yep. Drip drip drip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 My car already has a speed limiter, bloody irritating thing cuts in at just about 155mph 😉 This feature referred to here is long over-due and will have a manual over-ride so I'm not sure what the kerfuffle is really all about? There's other features coming too including driver monitoring as a requirement for new vehicles to get a Euro NCAP 5 star rating from 2020. There may or may not be an agenda to introduce features that will coerce the public into acceptance of higher levels of automated driving and full autonomy later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 54 minutes ago, ditchman said: you and me are going to fall out.............. Hey, don’t shoot the messenger- only reporting back on eye witness accounts. Of course I would trust a life to their reliability- just not my own life 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, ditchman said: who the hell is going to spend £60,000 plus on a nice posh car only to be overtaken by a 30 year old dirty landrover.......... Just thinking that myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 If you can not be caught for speeding .there will be not speed awareness course to go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Best order that 2021 Bentayga now then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, GingerCat said: Roll on driverless cars. Good i can see lots of good things about driver less cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db135 Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 There will be people who make a good living out of it deleting the speed limiting function like all them company’s who removed dpf and re programmed ecu’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Its all right deleting such restrictions but now its simple to plug in a bluetooth adapter to the obd 2 port and a phone add you can view live data wipe codes and police or vosa will be able to check if such things have been tampered with just off their phones not even a need for a laptop or vag com /lexia tec 2 any dedicated software. If its deleted nullities your insurance its a big risk for what you gain and breaking the law as the potential to put your bank balance in jeopardy or perhaps your gun licences. when restrictors come in best to just accept them . Vosa pulled in a mate who inocently purchased a AUDI a6 it had been de DPFed and holow cat visualy just a cat but borred out and lined in steel so it even felt sounded good when tapped, but vosa found it and he was lucky to get away with a warning cost hin around a thousand pounds to replace everything to standard again . they are shutting the door on the tempering and modifying with newer cars, and as more and more new technology becomes available i think it will get more difficult to bypass things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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