Retsdon Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 On 09/06/2019 at 01:46, Harnser said: Living off the state and no intention of looking for a job . Work is a four letter word to me . Work carnt be be all that good ,you have to pay somebody to do it , Harnser Gold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 I work in the advertising industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Do we have to define our status by our jobs and income? Because if not, my status is that I'm effectively exiled from my own country. To get back I have to give up my job and income in Saudi and make myself unemployed. Then, if I put up 63000 quid as a bond, they'll let me and the family back in. To be fair the kids and I can come anytime but unless we're going to leave their mother behind and leave me as a singe parent we are, as a family , basically barred from the country. I don't really care for myself but I feel bad for the boys. For example, the youngest has a natural inclination towards sports. This evening we were messing about with a cricket bat and ball on the grass (there's probably not another cricket bat within 200kms of here in Thailand), and I couldn't help but notice that without any kind of formal instruction he instinctively keeps a straight bat and times it on the button. Would he be competitive at a later age? No idea, but the thing is, we're never going to find out. And I'd like to teach them how to set a snare, and shoot, and train a working dog. But none of it's going to happen and that kind of makes me sad. To be honest, I feel a bit betrayed by own country and that's not a great place to be. So my status? Exile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Retsdon said: To be fair the kids and I can come anytime but unless we're going to leave their mother behind and leave me as a singe parent we are, as a family , basically barred from the country. Sneak her in like everyone else does, Im not even joking ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Just now, Rewulf said: Sneak her in like everyone else does, Im not even joking ! Can't. I was brought up to be honest. That's just how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Retsdon said: Do we have to define our status by our jobs and income? Because if not, my status is that I'm effectively exiled from my own country. To get back I have to give up my job and income in Saudi and make myself unemployed. Then, if I put up 63000 quid as a bond, they'll let me and the family back in. To be fair the kids and I can come anytime but unless we're going to leave their mother behind and leave me as a singe parent we are, as a family , basically barred from the country. I don't really care for myself but I feel bad for the boys. For example, the youngest has a natural inclination towards sports. This evening we were messing about with a cricket bat and ball on the grass (there's probably not another cricket bat within 200kms of here in Thailand), and I couldn't help but notice that without any kind of formal instruction he instinctively keeps a straight bat and times it on the button. Would he be competitive at a later age? No idea, but the thing is, we're never going to find out. And I'd like to teach them how to set a snare, and shoot, and train a working dog. But none of it's going to happen and that kind of makes me sad. To be honest, I feel a bit betrayed by own country and that's not a great place to be. So my status? Exile. Theres a woman near me, British with a thriving business, but her ghanaian husband cant come and live with her [I dont know the ins and outs] My niece married with a child, but her Jordanian husband cant work here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatureBoy Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Painter & decorator. But wanted to be keeper, conservationist or artist when i left school in 81. Ended up doing old school 3yr city and guilds apprenticeship. Got made redundant twice after. Self employed at 21. Sub contracting, contracting now mainly domestics. Working mainly on/restoring/looking after period properties. Varied jobs from. Churches to new builds, boats, Mansions, living wagons, museums and get to do a few murals. Get to combine work with shooting, fishing and conservation on some of the big properties. Hard work! But ya get out what ya put in. NB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicblue Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 IT Pre-Sales - specialising in Cloud/Security/Integration for a Houston, TX software company. 4 years off hitting the state retirement age for me - 66 but right now thinking I'll continue working if it remains as much fun as it is now,,,😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenBhoy Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Shepherd but in process of applying to go to uni to be mature student studying wildlife conservation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arm3000gt Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) Developing Engineer says my job sheet. I just do what I'm told and hope no one notices I make it up as I go along mostly. Formerly in the Newsprint industry but that is dying faster than the Tory party so i got out 11 years ago. Edited June 10, 2019 by arm3000gt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay shooter Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) 🤐When I started this thread I thought I would get some various answers to my question and so I have looking at them. Shows that even the down trodden proud man can join in and shoot. Well as you all can see.. WE ARE NOT the idle upper class super rich. TOFFS who have money enough to stand in the wind and rain on a shooting peg and happily bang away.. OR spend hours sat after woodpigeon crow etc in out luxury made ready hides with a hot toddy and cucumber sandwich at hand then when had enough its... into the Range Rover and home to our hot tubs in our large homes. NO.... WE ARE ORDINARY men (and ladies) who just do the farming community a service and help to save crops. Working class/middle class Ordinary men (and ladies) YES WE ARE... By gum that's a bloody relief..😂🤐 Edited June 10, 2019 by clay shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicblue Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 And that's what makes the shooting sports such a great element of life - money and status make no difference at all and we can all miss with style! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 Unpaid, unappreciated, under performing pigeon guide to some of my friends who work full time and have families and therefore cannot get out and look for pigeons as much as I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Retsdon said: Do we have to define our status by our jobs and income? Because if not, my status is that I'm effectively exiled from my own country. To get back I have to give up my job and income in Saudi and make myself unemployed. Then, if I put up 63000 quid as a bond, they'll let me and the family back in. To be fair the kids and I can come anytime but unless we're going to leave their mother behind and leave me as a singe parent we are, as a family , basically barred from the country. I don't really care for myself but I feel bad for the boys. For example, the youngest has a natural inclination towards sports. This evening we were messing about with a cricket bat and ball on the grass (there's probably not another cricket bat within 200kms of here in Thailand), and I couldn't help but notice that without any kind of formal instruction he instinctively keeps a straight bat and times it on the button. Would he be competitive at a later age? No idea, but the thing is, we're never going to find out. And I'd like to teach them how to set a snare, and shoot, and train a working dog. But none of it's going to happen and that kind of makes me sad. To be honest, I feel a bit betrayed by own country and that's not a great place to be. So my status? Exile. hello, am i right in saying you work in Saudi but your wife and family live in Thailand, ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 53 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, am i right in saying you work in Saudi but your wife and family live in Thailand, ? We were all in Saudi until last year, but the school fees were becoming impossible so the wife and kids moved to Thailand where we have a house and I stayed working in Saudi. I'd have liked to have moved them to the UK, a) because I'm not really happy about having my children grow up under a military dictatorship and b) the education system is appalling here (I'm in Thailand at the moment). But I couldn't get the missus in unless I chucked the job in Saudi, put up the 63,000 quid bond and moved with her and that would be one hell of a gamble because if I couldn't have secured a 20,000 a year job, they'd have booted her out. What irks me is that when the law was introduced it wasn't confined to future spouses. It also included people like ourselves who were already married and who had made life-decisions like starting a family on the basis of long-standing international norms of residence requirements. And lots of my colleagues were blind-sided by it. Last year one was forced to sell the house he owned in his home village in Scotland and move to Malawi for his retirement, his British teenage son having to go with him. My non-British colleagues just shake their heads in disbelief. Americans, Canadians, Kiwis, Irish, Australians, and of course the citizens of every other country in Europe and probably pretty much every other country in the world can all live in the land of their birth with their own children and the children's mother. Just the UK.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, Retsdon said: Just the UK.... I can appreciate your frustration. Have you considered another EU country, Ireland for example, you are (still) an EU citizen (for the moment) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, Retsdon said: We were all in Saudi until last year, but the school fees were becoming impossible so the wife and kids moved to Thailand where we have a house and I stayed working in Saudi. I'd have liked to have moved them to the UK, a) because I'm not really happy about having my children grow up under a military dictatorship and b) the education system is appalling here (I'm in Thailand at the moment). But I couldn't get the missus in unless I chucked the job in Saudi, put up the 63,000 quid bond and moved with her and that would be one hell of a gamble because if I couldn't have secured a 20,000 a year job, they'd have booted her out. What irks me is that when the law was introduced it wasn't confined to future spouses. It also included people like ourselves who were already married and who had made life-decisions like starting a family on the basis of long-standing international norms of residence requirements. And lots of my colleagues were blind-sided by it. Last year one was forced to sell the house he owned in his home village in Scotland and move to Malawi for his retirement, his British teenage son having to go with him. My non-British colleagues just shake their heads in disbelief. Americans, Canadians, Kiwis, Irish, Australians, and of course the citizens of every other country in Europe and probably pretty much every other country in the world can all live in the land of their birth with their own children and the children's mother. Just the UK.... hello, i can understand how you feel, i have been to Thailand quite a few times and met English men with a Thai wife and family if that is your situation, in fact i often went to visit them and they wanted to return but this system you mentioned stop them from a life in UK, some of these men had retired from the Armed Forces or had a business that went bust as you mentioned from the new regulations put in force by the military dictators, yet in general i found the Thais such good hard working people and always welcomed you to their home, i can only wish you and your family well, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, Retsdon said: But I couldn't get the missus in unless I chucked the job in Saudi, put up the 63,000 quid bond and moved with her and that would be one hell of a gamble because if I couldn't have secured a 20,000 a year job, they'd have booted her out. Don't take this the wrong way, but if your working in Saudi and probably earning very good money then your qualified and good at something, so getting a job paying £20k is going to be Childs play. Realise you don't want to pay the bond but would it not be better to sell up in Saudi and Thailand and bite the bullet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 I wouldnt bother coming back, this country's gone to the dogs anyway. As for the money, my misses used to get 35k in ireland, struggled to get 19k living here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 Civil Servant working in the community development sector. I've fished and shot all my life, but its worth noting that my sport has been at the cheaper end of the scale, fishing is on Association water, my shooting has been predominantly rough shooting and I'm a member of a wildfowling club.....although I do save and head out for more expensive trips from time to time. Cheers Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ox Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 31, fathers an arable farmer on 450 acres. I work as a mechanical service engineer for a big UK equipment company on a gov contract. I would like to work on the farm but 450 acres isn’t enough to supply two wages. I help out when needed, and possibly one day step into his boots, that’s if the Labour Party doesn’t get in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernel gadaffi Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 From 16-20, I worked in a foundry, behind the bar at my local and on Saturdays in shooting season, I was a beater, went into furniture making while still doing bar work. Got laid off from the furniture place, so went into full time bar work. Had a big motorbike accident, so no work for two years and was limited to what I could do. Got into computing and did several courses, which led to me working in road haulage, becoming the transport manager from 1990 to mid 2010. Had another life changing accident on February 29th 2008 (yes, Leap Year Day), the day my working world ended forever. I got back to work for a little while, then my employer went bust, leaving me with very little in the way of options, the injuries I suffered took their toll and I was no longer able to work, now, I'm medically not allowed to work, I'm in the support group within the DWP and it cheeses me off that I cannot work, both mentally and physically. For a guy who was working full time and more, to a full stop was a huge loss in my life, I loved working and being busy all the time. Now, the pains, stiffness and recently diagnosed Fibromyalgia, control every aspect of my life and I can tell you, it's not pleasant. Enjoy what you have, while you can, one day, it could change in an instant, then the regrets can bear down on you, heavier than you could ever believe. Live for today. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, kernel gadaffi said: From 16-20, I worked in a foundry, behind the bar at my local and on Saturdays in shooting season, I was a beater, went into furniture making while still doing bar work. Got laid off from the furniture place, so went into full time bar work. Had a big motorbike accident, so no work for two years and was limited to what I could do. Got into computing and did several courses, which led to me working in road haulage, becoming the transport manager from 1990 to mid 2010. Had another life changing accident on February 29th 2008 (yes, Leap Year Day), the day my working world ended forever. I got back to work for a little while, then my employer went bust, leaving me with very little in the way of options, the injuries I suffered took their toll and I was no longer able to work, now, I'm medically not allowed to work, I'm in the support group within the DWP and it cheeses me off that I cannot work, both mentally and physically. For a guy who was working full time and more, to a full stop was a huge loss in my life, I loved working and being busy all the time. Now, the pains, stiffness and recently diagnosed Fibromyalgia, control every aspect of my life and I can tell you, it's not pleasant. Enjoy what you have, while you can, one day, it could change in an instant, then the regrets can bear down on you, heavier than you could ever believe. Live for today. Alan. Really sorry to hear of your life changing accidents Alan . All the very best for the future . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Retired proletarian technocrat Edited June 11, 2019 by das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratchers Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Left school in 76 and straight in to a railway apprenceship as a signalling technician, loved the job outside fault finding, using your brain. Job restructured so end up being a glorified cleaner oiling, greasing and dusting, I was in charge of 30 miles of railway track with huge responsibility for safety on £100 a week at 27 years old. I left and got a job with BT, great job fixing telephone lines, up poles and down holes. Sadly I to had a big motorbike crash smashing my leg, left on medical redundancy. Started buying and selling antiques and collectables with my own shop, sell online all over the world now. Can come and go as I please,sell when I want and go shooting when I want, some weeks earn nothing other weeks earn a few hundred quid, but I love being self employed and having the freedom to do as I choose. Got to say though couldn't do this if I didn't have a lovely wife who paid the mortgage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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