Rewulf Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Vince Green said: The term "The People's" is clearly an attempt to make it appear its the people that want it Some people do want it, just no where near enough The peoples vote petition https://www.peoples-vote.uk/petition And like all good EU style democratic votes, if it doesnt work the first time, try again with a different question/namehttps://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-give-people-a-final-say-on-brexit-deal And still fail to garner much interest 😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Some people do want it, just no where near enough The peoples vote petition https://www.peoples-vote.uk/petition And like all good EU style democratic votes, if it doesnt work the first time, try again with a different question/namehttps://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-give-people-a-final-say-on-brexit-deal And still fail to garner much interest 😋 When/If the petition for the "people's vote" reaches over 17 million plus!........the number that voted "out".........then it may have some legitamacy!....when it is decided what the "people" are supposed to be voting on! Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: +1 Scotland is not actually a country despite their delusions. And I'll be right behind you when you shout that out in a Glasgow pub...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 25 minutes ago, panoma1 said: When/If the petition for the "people's vote" reaches over 17 million plus!........the number that voted "out".........then it may have some legitamacy!....when it is decided what the "people" are supposed to be voting on! Lol! Exactly ! The simple fact that less than a million people feel strongly enough about it to bother voting tells everything. Just now, Aled said: And I'll be right behind you when you shout that out in a Glasgow pub...... You do what you like, Ill be out the door and up the road !😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 54 minutes ago, Rewulf said: . You do what you like, Ill be out the door and up the road !😃 LOL if I'm honest....so will I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Aled said: LOL if I'm honest....so will I! Yer following ME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Sorry I couldnt help it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 https://infacts.org/marching-for-peoples-vote-on-saturday-could-change-history/?fbclid=IwAR3VKKpEKDczy1QPZSeNM5k-cRfqj0i-GhxTdYFGj-R6YVB5GVGLI5sp_PY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yod dropper Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 I heard Soubry saying because Brexit wouldn't get through the parliament the only way to resolve it was through a second vote. If the result were the same I don't see why parliament would be any more likely to vote the result through. I'd love to see this simple question put to any of the people backing it because it just falls apart. I can't believe this so called People's Vote is given any credence whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, yod dropper said: I heard Soubry saying because Brexit wouldn't get through the parliament the only way to resolve it was through a second vote. If the result were the same I don't see why parliament would be any more likely to vote the result through. I'd love to see this simple question put to any of the people backing it because it just falls apart. I can't believe this so called People's Vote is given any credence whatsoever. Spot on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 I really don`t get all this tosh, the vote was to leave or stay and leave won. There was never anything said to the effect of we will see what deal we can get before leaving, and if there is no "deal" (which is what I would prefer) then we leave without one, only remoaners want a "deal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 08/10/2018 at 10:23, Rewulf said: Although I broadly agree with that sentiment, I wonder how many of the population are Tory or UKIP voters, AND are on those benefits that might get stopped ? Make those people poorer, and the shadow of Corbyn (or someone of his ilk) promising 😉 to put them all back, if they vote in a socialist labour government is virtually guaranteed. Be careful what you wish for. But it WAS the people who voted to leave. I'd hazard a guess that if a second vote is put forwards at least half the voters will never vote again in their lives. Of course that could be the real plan in the belief that most oldies will give up voting while many younger trendies feel driven with attempts to change the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Any deal should be accepted if it benefits the U.K. and it's people.....if the EU don't offer/agree to one, fair enough the U.K. leaves without a deal!......And **** the EU. The U.K. can and will look after itself. With a deal, we are tied into what best for us and the EU....without one we are obligated to look after the UK only!........So again, no deal ?..........**** the EU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, panoma1 said: Any deal should be accepted if it benefits the U.K. and it's people.....if the EU don't offer/agree to one, fair enough the U.K. leaves without a deal!......And **** the EU. The U.K. can and will look after itself. With a deal, we are tied into what best for us and the EU....without one we are obligated to look after the UK only!........So again, no deal ?..........**** the EU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 There is absolutely no possibility that any deal the EU would agree would be more beneficial to the UK than no deal. Without Britain's contribution the EU's sums don't add up, If they aren't worried they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, Vince Green said: There is absolutely no possibility that any deal the EU would agree would be more beneficial to the UK than no deal. Without Britain's contribution the EU's sums don't add up, If they aren't worried they should be. They're not worried because we will still be paying and giving them a lump sum to boot. May looks likely to really sail us down an excrement creek without a paddle. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see our establishment (mostly remoaners) allowing a no deal, which in my opinion is best for the UK. I don't see why anyone thinks the EU is the be all and end all with regards to trade. We should have stopped paying (the only way to leave) the day after the vote was in and reverted to WTO, then we should have started trade talks. We would be out and have a trade deal by now and most importantly we wouldn't be sending the EU £350,000,000 a week still or have agreed to £39,000,000,000 to leave. The whole thing is a farce dreamed up by remainers to keep us shackled to the EU Dictatorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Enough of this ruddy claptrap, we voted out and that is exactly where we are going. Lets have a no deal and call it a do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Too cryptic for me, so I will just say, come on Prime Minister get on with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) I said, right after the vote, the vote we won, that the establishment will never, ever let this happen. What we're seeing is an epic toe punt of the can until the next election. An election which will be based entirely around one idea, one vision; stopping brexit and overturning the vote. Hardly cryptic, as the lyrics state, you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave. Or, as my old granddad used to say, it doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always wins. Edited October 18, 2018 by mick miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, mick miller said: I said, right after the vote, the vote we won, that the establishment will never, ever let this happen. What we're seeing is an epic toe punt of the can until the next election. An election which will be based entirely around one idea, one vision; stopping brexit and overturning the vote. Hardly cryptic, as the lyrics state, you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave. Or, as my old granddad used to say, it doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always wins. Yes delaying tactics. We the majority of people voted to leave .... GET ON WITH IT ...This is definitely becoming... CON - servative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Just sent email to my MP voicing my opinion on the fudging and dithering. I urge you all to do the same!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) IF the transition period is extended (and I don't believe it should be) we should not pay ANY money in the extension period. That should clearly focus the EU 'negotiators' (or more correctly dictators) minds on getting it sorted quickly. Edited October 18, 2018 by JohnfromUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: IF the transition period is extended (and I don't believe it should be) we should not pay ANY money in the extension period. That should clearly focus the EU 'negotiators' (or more correctly dictators) minds on getting it sorted quickly. Yeah, that isn't going to happen. Capitulation all the way, she was **** as home sec. and proving to be equally gash as pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 I’m coming round to the point of view where I now believe it is t going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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