matgriff Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Hi, I've recently been given 15 full boxes of cartridges 🙂 Unless I'm being particularly thick, which isn't unknown, they don't say if they are fibre or plastic wads.... maybe it's because they're pretty old and were around before plastic wads were available ?? They are Winchester AA trap 100 12ga 32g 70mm 7 1/2's Any info welcome. Thanks Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Cut one open and find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Pretty sure they had a special felt recoil reducing plastic wad - always hard on the shoulder though from what I remember - good quality shells but the smell used to give me a headache - maybe I'm just a wuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 You lucky sod! These are plastic wads, and were widely considered 'the best' cartridges you could get … trap 200's had higher brass and were better if anything. They'll obliterate any clays you send their way, and will be pretty damned good on woodies also. One for the retro connoisseur !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Yep agree with the above, you are a lucky lad indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 They will make a good decoying cartridge, damned shame you can't shoot registered competitions with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Trap 100 are plastic wad and are excellent. I got through 1000's when clay shooting many moons ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matgriff Posted June 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 OK thanks for the information. I was hoping they were fibre's as I'm going on a simulated game day out next month and I need to use fiber wads only. I have a good stock of plastic wads already, but no prob I'll just have to go get another couple of slabs 🙂 Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinj Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 A blast from the past quite literally, I used these all the time 30+ years ago. Note 32 gram (or 1 1/8 oz) is no longer legal tender in competitions where 28g max is the rule 👍 Also worthy of note, the cases are sought after for reloading, I believe it was because they were injection moulded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, matgriff said: OK thanks for the information. I was hoping they were fibre's as I'm going on a simulated game day out next month and I need to use fiber wads only. I have a good stock of plastic wads already, but no prob I'll just have to go get another couple of slabs 🙂 Mat They are far too good for loads of shots at easy clay targets, go and buy yourself a 1000 of the RC Romagnola's they are probably the cheapest fibre's you'll find. Edited June 19, 2020 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Sorry lads, I disagree. Horrible cartridges. Somebody once gave me a box of Trap 100’s and I fired two and gave the rest of the box away. Most uncomfortable cartridge I have ever fired, and I very rarely feel any sort of cartridge go off, up to and including .470 Nitro Express. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, London Best said: Sorry lads, I disagree. Horrible cartridges. Somebody once gave me a box of Trap 100’s and I fired two and gave the rest of the box away. Most uncomfortable cartridge I have ever fired, and I very rarely feel any sort of cartridge go off, up to and including .470 Nitro Express. Well I reckon you'll be in a small minority! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matgriff Posted June 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Just been out to my local gun shop, he told me that they don't have any clay shells and haven't been able to get any for a few months due to the Coronavirus shutdown 😞 Not sure how true that is, but I came away empty handed. Not sure about those AA trap cartridges being too good for clays... I'm a rubbish shot anyway and all cartridges are better than I am, so I usually go for the cheapest available... and they don't come much cheaper than free 🙂 Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Except you need fibre! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 And people would pay a handsome price to have them from you !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Put them up for swap if they are not sentimental to you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) If with plastic cased cartridges you've a doubt as if fibre or plaswad then "candle" them as you would an egg. If you haven't a candle use a torch. If it's a plaswad you'll know. Edited June 19, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Matgriff, If you need any cartridges try Duncan Lawton at Croxton Post Office , just outside Eccleshall . Failing that I have some if you require them . Newport, Shropshire 22 miles from N.u.L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 6 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: They are far too good for loads of shots at easy clay targets, go and buy yourself a 1000 of the RC Romagnola's they are probably the cheapest fibre's you'll find. i just bought 250 of them in 21 grams. good cartdridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, matgriff said: OK thanks for the information. I was hoping they were fibre's as I'm going on a simulated game day out next month and I need to use fiber wads only. I have a good stock of plastic wads already, but no prob I'll just have to go get another couple of slabs 🙂 Mat I got 500 Hull Superfarts Fibre from Wiseman's, Cannock, just before lockdown. £100. Edited June 19, 2020 by Westley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 The Winchester 100's will most likely be PLASTIC wads, I do not recall ever seeing any with fibre wads and I shot 1000's during 1970's. You could use ANY shot load back then. I used a Remmie 1100 Trap gun and also a Skeet version. The 32 gram 100 and 200's were possibly the best cartridge around at the time. Eley were still recovering after their 'Explosion' and were still having cartridges loaded in France (and NOT very well !). I recently found a bag of reloaded 100 cases, which I had loaded with 3 shot 32 grams for Geese. I used Tippex to mark the crimps so that I knew what they were when flighting under the moon. We never really felt recoil back then, it was considered to be an 'occupational hazard'. Happy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redial Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Well respected cartridges, when I used to be shooting clays or should I say at clays. I would think almost certainly plastic. I remember the last that I found were at a shooting ground near Chester. I've never stuck with a cartridge since they became unavailable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landyboy Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 I’d happily buy them ! They are Plas wad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW95J Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Undoubtedly plastic wad. I've got 100+ unboxed Winchester Rangers of a similar vintage (67mm, shot size 6, I think 30g but not marked). Have established that they're plastic having cut one open. I don't use plastic wads and it seems a waste to use them on clays as I know they're fairly sought-after. With a lot of cartridges you can tell the wad by seeing how much give they have in them (plastic wads tend to have a bit of flex if you press from the side) or holding up to the light. With Winchesters they have a nice good quality hull so neither of those approaches work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Can I suggest you consider Proper Cartridges, there is a new fibre shell out for £195 a thousand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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