Morons with dogs

[B725]

I've just been out with my dog when a large greyhound comes bounding up to mine, bearing in mind a German shepherd has had a go at him so he doesn't like large strange dogs it ended up with me telling the t**t in no uncertain terms what would happen if I he didn't get it under control. Some people are just stupid and arregant as you have no idea how strange dogs meeting will react.

[oscarsdad]

And they are usually the first to say “he only wants to play” when as dog owners often we can clearly tell the difference between play and aggression...

[Walker570]

I was cutting logs this morning across the fields and heard the plaintive call of the dog owning idiot.......... Oscar!,    Oscar!!!!...... come here Oscar...Oscar good boy come here.....OSCAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

then this cross bred labrador whatever came charging up to me. I must have been three hundred yards away from the plaintive cry.  I gave the dog a look and told it no uncertain terms to bog off.  It got the message and fled back towards the plaintive cries.  I shouted as loud as I could...." If you can't trust the dog to stay with you, then put it on a lead".  I didn't get a reply.  The fields around me had about 100 young pheasant poults wandering around.  These stupid useless people make me very mad.

[Ultrastu]

I avoid dog owners who have there dog on a tight lead  .like a water skier  holding on .

As I know there is likely to be an issue with the dog and hence the training  .

Dogs just ambling around near the owner   .

I don't give a second glance to and let my dog wonder over  to say hello  or the other way round  .happened exactly like that with a beautiful tall grey dog only 30 mins ago when out in a field with my ess  .

[washerboy]

Can't abide folks that can't control a dog while it's off the lead. OK it helps that my bitch is half border collie but bring them up right, teach them manners and it's all good. 

[London Best]

Over time I have fallen out with most of the local dog owners. What really annoys me is when I have a youngster under training and call it to heel well before meeting people and they make no attempt to stop their dogs rushing over and disturbing my dog from heel. My latest dog is very nervous and is easily disturbed. Each similar incident set her training back by weeks. 
I lost it completely with one stupid woman with five out of control dogs and she called the police, who told her the same as me, that it was her responsibility to keep her dogs under control.

[WalkedUp]

My previous posts on this matter upset the more sensitive souls on this forum and so I will refrain from commenting with regards to badly behaved dogs. 

[B725]

I don't care a toss about what anybody thinks my little dog will be protected regardless .

[WalkedUp]

Agree completely.

[Lloyd90]

3 hours ago, WalkedUp said:

My previous posts on this matter upset the more sensitive souls on this forum and so I will refrain from commenting with regards to badly behaved dogs. 

 

Come on what did you say 🤣

 

Two staffies once charged over 200 yards to attack my sisters little cross thing. Thank god they were muzzled or they’d have killed it. 
 

I kicked the main aggressor so hard I think I sprained my foot pretty badly. 
 

Thing is I felt bad for the dog. On the one hand it’s not his fault the owners a complete moron. The owner started complaining when I kicked the dog until I shouted back at him that it was his bloody fault!! He reflected and said “fair enough” and went off in embarrassment. 

[Hayden]

I too have fallen out with a few local dog owners too.  What is it with the standard call of 'He's OK'? 

One time will always stick in my mind.  A few years ago, I had a mini dachshund that really didn't like other dogs, a labrador cross came bounding over with the owner shouting, 'He's OK, he just wants to play', I replied with - 'It's not him I'm worried about, it's this one'! Give the lady her due, she sprinted over to me quick sharp!

There is another local that flatly refuses to put their dogs on a lead, even though it's gone for other dogs previously, I really don't get it.  Like I'm putting them out when I ask them to put their dog on a lead.  It's their arrogance I really don't get.

Hayden

 

 

[Westley]

Even if they are on a lead they have no control over the animal,  as the lead is attached to a bloody harness. The sale of collars and check chains has collapsed, "cos it's cruel"  ?  The only time I ever used a harness was for tracking with the dog, harness fitted, nose down and off we go !  I am sorry to say that it is now the dogs taking the owners for walks  !  I just love the "He/She understands every word I say " except HEEL that is  !

[Surfer]

Yep sick to death of dogs off leads , also it’s fine he’s friendly ,well mine isn’t with dogs he’s never met or people who come too close for comfort.

i think I’ve said before on a thread 2 jrts set about him while they were off lead and he wasn’t , he sorted the pair and the woman called me all the names under the sun , is it me or are they getting thicker 

[London Best]

We have morons with dogs on those stupid extendable leads who keep the lead short until they are 4/5 yards away and then release the extender “so he can say hello”.

The minute you’re see an extendable lead you can be sure the owner can do nothing with the dog.

[Hayden]

34 minutes ago, London Best said:

We have morons with dogs on those stupid extendable leads who keep the lead short until they are 4/5 yards away and then release the extender “so he can say hello”.

The minute you’re see an extendable lead you can be sure the owner can do nothing with the dog.

Funny you should say this, there is a couple that walk past my back garden every day with a fairly young cocker.  At the beginning of the year, it was always off the lead, then they spent about an hour calling the dog as it had disappeared into a little bit woodland.  Literally the next day, they were walking it on an extendable lead, and have done ever since.  When the lady has hold of the dog, it's like she's going to get pulled over every time it's a full speed and reaches the end of the extender!  It's very funny to watch!

[Remimax]

must admit i'm lucky, fields only for me these days never go near the pet brigade  with my ESS.

as for these stupid harnesses whats all that about "stops yer dog pulling "  errmmm hello.

if you want to pull summit what's the first thing you put on a animal.

 

[London Best]

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4 minutes ago, Hayden said:

Funny you should say this, there is a couple that walk past my back garden every day with a fairly young cocker.  At the beginning of the year, it was always off the lead, then they spent about an hour calling the dog as it had disappeared into a little bit woodland.  Literally the next day, they were walking it on an extendable lead, and have done ever since.  When the lady has hold of the dog, it's like she's going to get pulled over every time it's a full speed and reaches the end of the extender!  It's very funny to watch!

I saw a woman get pulled over in the snow by her enormous Labrador and it toboganned her over 80 yards to “say hello” to my dogs. Fair dos, she hung on grimly!

[WalkedUp]

I put my dogs into a sit if another dog approaches out of control in public. It almost always works to intimidate or confuse the other dog into leaving, as mine sit perfectly regimented with eyeballs fixed and muscles taught. Any dog that ignores this perimeter  runs up barking at my children gets instant and very severe correction. There are no exceptions to this rule. The owners’ excuses of “he’s frightened of young children”, “he doesn’t like groups” or “he’s all bark” mean nothing to me. A lot of people get upset and are visibly shaken or occasionally angry but it is a useful lesson for them, I see it as training for the owner to help them understand acceptable behaviour from a dog as much as training for their dog not to threaten people. 

If your dog habitually runs up to other dogs / children / people / livestock in an uncontrolled manner leaping or barking at them in a public place there is only one solution but most people are too cowardly to accept it. 

When you buy a dog you need to understand that if you ruin it through negligence (lack of training, lack of socialisation) then you should be the one to have the guts to see it be destroyed, not pass the problem on by rehoming it or letting the problem fester until a good dog or child gets hurt.

[The Heron]

On 21/09/2020 at 20:48, B725 said:

I don't care a toss about what anybody thinks my little dog will be protected regardless .

+1

[clangerman]

if your dog is untrained it’s like wearing a sign telling people your a idiot my fave is hearing fido’s name ten times as it still ignores the owner and runs about like a loon 

[12gauge82]

I've got to be honest I've never really had a problem, I've kept dogs all my life and always had at least two, I have obviously experienced the odd dog who failed to recall come bounding up to mine, but I've never had a dog showing real aggression towards any of mine, I find it surprising just how many on here have had serious problems with others dogs. My only guess is I've always been lucky that I live in nice areas that don't own the stereotypical staffy with a huge collar and a chav in tow. 

[ClemFandango]

On 24/09/2020 at 21:28, WalkedUp said:

I put my dogs into a sit if another dog approaches out of control in public. It almost always works to intimidate or confuse the other dog into leaving, as mine sit perfectly regimented with eyeballs fixed and muscles taught. Any dog that ignores this perimeter  runs up barking at my children gets instant and very severe correction. There are no exceptions to this rule. The owners’ excuses of “he’s frightened of young children”, “he doesn’t like groups” or “he’s all bark” mean nothing to me. A lot of people get upset and are visibly shaken or occasionally angry but it is a useful lesson for them, I see it as training for the owner to help them understand acceptable behaviour from a dog as much as training for their dog not to threaten people. 

If your dog habitually runs up to other dogs / children / people / livestock in an uncontrolled manner leaping or barking at them in a public place there is only one solution but most people are too cowardly to accept it. 

When you buy a dog you need to understand that if you ruin it through negligence (lack of training, lack of socialisation) then you should be the one to have the guts to see it be destroyed, not pass the problem on by rehoming it or letting the problem fester until a good dog or child gets hurt.

Totally agree. 

Good point well made.

 

I once had a guy with a golden retriever, daily it would be off it's lead maybe 500 yards away from him across the fields. 

One day I managed to catch ahold of it. I put it in the van and it came to work with me for the day. I kennelled  it overnight then phoned the dog warden. He collected that afternoon. 

Not sure if they still have dog wardens but apparanatley there is a £70 charge on collection when they reunite the dog with the owner.

 

52 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

I've got to be honest I've never really had a problem, I've kept dogs all my life and always had at least two, I have obviously experienced the odd dog who failed to recall come bounding up to mine, but I've never had a dog showing real aggression towards any of mine, I find it surprising just how many on here have had serious problems with others dogs. My only guess is I've always been lucky that I live in nice areas that don't own the stereotypical staffy with a huge collar and a chav in tow. 

Perhaps you have been lucky. 

I wonder if it is your attitude perhaps. 

Having had nasty experiences previously with other dogs I imagine my body language as another dog approaches is defensive. Perhaps the other dog picks up on this?

Maybe my digs pick up on this and adjust their response to the other dog accordingly?

Maybe the result is partly my fault?

[12gauge82]

5 minutes ago, ClemFandango said:

Totally agree. 

Good point well made.

 

I once had a guy with a golden retriever, daily it would be off it's lead maybe 500 yards away from him across the fields. 

One day I managed to catch ahold of it. I put it in the van and it came to work with me for the day. I kennelled  it overnight then phoned the dog warden. He collected that afternoon. 

Not sure if they still have dog wardens but apparanatley there is a £70 charge on collection when they reunite the dog with the owner.

 

Perhaps you have been lucky. 

I wonder if it is your attitude perhaps. 

Having had nasty experiences previously with other dogs I imagine my body language as another dog approaches is defensive. Perhaps the other dog picks up on this?

Maybe my digs pick up on this and adjust their response to the other dog accordingly?

Maybe the result is partly my fault?

I'm not sure really but reading this thread I feel lucky, for over a decade  I had a large dominant gsd which almost certainly would ward off an aggressive dog if I met one, but have owned collies, springers and pointers as well as a few complete and utter mishmash of God knows what breeds. I suppose I've never owned just one dog either which might also have helped. I just hope it continues that way. 

As for is it your fault, I think that's being far to harsh on yourself, if you or your dog have been attacked before of course it'll make you nervous and wary of other strange dogs and of course any dog that has been attacked before will be on the defensive/offensive, if you think you are uptight when you see a dog approach it's important to try and relax, as any tention in you will travel straight down the lead to your own dog and could lead to a fight. Good luck 👍

[ClemFandango]

5 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

I'm not sure really but reading this thread I feel lucky, for over a decade  I had a large dominant gsd which almost certainly would ward off an aggressive dog if I met one, but have owned collies, springers and pointers as well as a few complete and utter mishmash of God knows what breeds. I suppose I've never owned just one dog either which might also have helped. I just hope it continues that way. 

As for is it your fault, I think that's being far to harsh on yourself, if you or your dog have been attacked before of course it'll make you nervous and wary of other strange dogs and of course any dog that has been attacked before will be on the defensive/offensive, if you think you are uptight when you see a dog approach it's important to try and relax, as any tention in you will travel straight down the lead to your own dog and could lead to a fight. Good luck 👍

That's what I was thinking as I was responding to the thread. 

It's probably a combination of things but I bet the body language doesn't help. 

[WalkedUp]

My dogs (and children) have been attacked by many different types of dogs over the years. Labs, GSDs, terriers, greyhounds, another Weimeraner, others I’ve lost track of. I was bitten by a border collie and attacked by a Doberman as a child too.

My dogs will fight once bitten/leaped upon or I give the command. The common factor in all instances is poor control from the other party. The greyhounds for example ran into the broadside of my old bitch as we were jogging at 90° to them and took a huge chunk out of her flank without me even realising she had been hit. I scolded her for breaking heel as she’d dropped back a couple of yards then I realised her side was completely open. I legged it back to catch the owners. A lovely professional couple. They were appalled and I was probably over aggressive but I took their details including home address and demanded they pay the vet bills and keep their dogs muzzled at all times. To be fair to them they did both, good sensible people. Those dogs were “rescue” greyhounds - fools who take in a dysfunctional dog and hope for the best are beyond me. Kindest thing for it is a bullet.