Pfizer vaccine approved

[Smokersmith]

Congratulations to the government for getting being the first western country to get a vaccine approved.

 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Now form an orderly queue!

[oowee]

It's great news. 

Sod the que there must be a way to buy it directly.

[Vince Green]

Yes its very good news indeed. Now hopefully we are on the down hill stretch

[johnphilip]

32 minutes ago, oowee said:

It's great news. 

Sod the que there must be a way to buy it directly.

Wow you have changed , what about all this fellow man , and looking after other poor countries  you preach  about all the time .

[243deer]

I used to work for Pfizers and so know very well the usual protocols a drug has to go through to be approved.

This cannot have been through the usual rigorous process as there has not been enough time to assess long term adverse reactions so the approval will be for a promising but not fully tested vaccine and the approval will in part be political.

It would make a good episode of yes minister

[clangerman]

3 minutes ago, 243deer said:

I used to work for Pfizers and so know very well the usual protocols a drug has to go through to be approved.

This cannot have been through the usual rigorous process as there has not been enough time to assess long term adverse reactions so the approval will be for a promising but not fully tested vaccine and the approval will in part be political.

It would make a good episode of yes minister

exactly why i am having second thoughts we are talking the government here known liars 

[Smokersmith]

7 minutes ago, clangerman said:

exactly why i am having second thoughts we are talking the government here known liars 

Will you accept the offer of vaccination when it comes?

[clangerman]

Just now, Smokersmith said:

Will you accept the offer of vaccination when it comes?

not decides it’s not like you can change your mind once jabbed 

[Smokersmith]

One thing we do know is that they won't work on corpses.

[Gordon R]

Those who oppose the vaccine seem to think any adverse effects will show up almost immediately. There may or may not be adverse effects, but they may be years down the road. At what point will the anti-vaccine people declare it safe?

[AVB]

As I’ve said before I would take the jab if offered (57 years old) but not sure about the children. Interestingly doctors/ ministers  etc have said that they are happy for their granny to have it but have swerved around the question when asked if they were happy for their young children to have it. 

[clangerman]

just to be on the safe side lining the government up and jabbing all of them first would be a good idea 

[Deker]

6 minutes ago, Gordon R said:

Those who oppose the vaccine seem to think any adverse effects will show up almost immediately. There may or may not be adverse effects, but they may be years down the road. At what point will the anti-vaccine people declare it safe?

for me.. 4 or 5 years, I'm healthy enough to not need to worry about it for a while but I understand the vulnerable wanting it as it may be the lesser of two evils (or it could be completely safe...) 

BTW I'm not anti-vaccine, just anti rushed out vaccine

Edited December 2, 2020 by Deker

[AVB]

1 minute ago, clangerman said:

just to be on the safe side lining the government up and jabbing all of them first would be a good idea 

Then you would complain that they were at the front of the queue. 

[Gordon R]

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Then you would complain that they were at the front of the queue. 

You could have a bright future in the Labour Party. Whatever happens you can say the opposite was the correct path. 😀😀

[clangerman]

1 minute ago, AVB said:

Then you would complain that they were at the front of the queue. 

don’t think anyone minds a small sacrifice to see them go first 

[discobob]

They have never disclosed how the infection started in The Walking Dead have they??? Anybody seen I am Legend - great film!!! And they did show how that started. 

This morning it was "hancock's half hour" on GMB - you know - where they ask him questions and he never answers - he did say that the vaccine would be given to everyone - including people who have already had the virus.

Will I have it - I don't know - YET. Wife has said she feels more comfortable with the Oxford vaccine.

[Mr.C]

NHS and care staff will be getting the Pfizer jab afaik. Recon us plebs will be getting the Oxford jab in the new year

[Gordon R]

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Anybody seen I am Legend - great film!!!

Richard Matheson wrote the book. The original film adaptation film was "The Omega Man" starring Charlton Heston. Later came the Will Smith inferior version.

[discobob]

Just now, Gordon R said:

Richard Matheson wrote the book. The original film adaptation film was "The Omega Man" starring Charlton Heston. Later came the Will Smith inferior version.

I remember the original film with Charlton Heston- never read the book though that I can remember although when young I had a voracious appetite for books - especially science fiction

[Docleo]

41 minutes ago, 243deer said:

I used to work for Pfizers and so know very well the usual protocols a drug has to go through to be approved.

This cannot have been through the usual rigorous process as there has not been enough time to assess long term adverse reactions so the approval will be for a promising but not fully tested vaccine and the approval will in part be political.

It would make a good episode of yes minister

Then you should know the name of the company you worked for is Pfizer not Pfizers.

Could you please enlight me on the skipped steps? 

I have a PhD in pharmacology, work in safety pharmacology assessment and will have the vaccine as soon as available. 

Really annoyed by the fake news and self-appointed expert.

[ditchman]

Edward Jenner rocks ...okay ....

[oscarsdad]

19 minutes ago, Docleo said:

Then you should know the name of the company you worked for is Pfizer not Pfizers.

Could you please enlight me on the skipped steps? 

I have a PhD in pharmacology, work in safety pharmacology assessment and will have the vaccine as soon as available. 

Really annoyed by the fake news and self-appointed expert.

Finally - someone talking sense with the right experience. I have some having been to med school - I will having vaccine as soon as I am able to and hope my parents have it much sooner than that.

I am sick of people saying these vaccines were rushed. They were not rushed, they were prioritised. Researchers didnt need to ****** about writing applications for funding grants, they had unlimited cash and more willing volunteers for trials, so the normal vaccine development timeline was significantly bettered, not through shortcuts, but through a massive effort from science around the world, working on tech which they had already started in some cases, to get us out of the mess this virus put the planet into.

Edited December 2, 2020 by oscarsdad

[clangerman]

8 minutes ago, oscarsdad said:

 

I am sick of people saying these vaccines were rushed. They were not rushed, they were prioritised. Researchers didnt need to ****** about writing applications for funding grants, they had unlimited cash and more willing volunteers for trials, so the normal vaccine development timeline was significantly bettered, not through shortcuts, but through a massive effort from science around the world to get us out of the mess this virus put the planet into.

prioritised=rushed you missed out the FACT data for the vaccine has NOT taken the usual route of being given peer approval first and that is a corner cut