old'un Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Should nurses be treated any differently to other public or private workers, nurses have been offered a 1% pay increase but their unions are now calling for strike action. With the country in a bit of a mess financially, should they get more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 No...they are doing their job.... like many many others who have continued working providing valuable services that others rely upon....and who dont have unions threatening strikes if they dont get their way!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Downing Street Press Secretary Allegra Stratton is expected to lead the new daily briefings (Photo: Dan Kitwood/Getty Images) By Joanna Whitehead March 6, 2021 11:33 am Downing Street has spent more than £2.6 million on a new media briefing room, at the same time as the Government has announced plans for a one per cent pay rise for NHS workers, prompting widespread anger. Number 10 plans to hold White House-style daily press briefings, fronted by spokesperson Allegra Stratton. The cost of the refurbishment was revealed as Mr Johnson faces pressure over the funding of a separation renovation to his official residence. The i politics newsletter cut through the noise They went above and beyond there job and deserve more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 I'm not sure they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 unlike a lot of public sector workers they are getting all the overtime they want to work. Ok they may not want to work it in which case they can't be forced to. For those who do its bottomless, and paid at premium rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted March 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 nurses have given a lot during this Covid pandemic but there are also other workers that have also put their health/lives at risk, shop workers for one, especially the checkout staff, perhaps nurses should be paid a bit more but surly with the country up to its eyeballs in debt now is not the time to be holding the country to ransom with strike action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Overtime they are on the front line putting there lives at risk to save ours there are some who are working god knows how many hours a day not because it is overtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Hello, 2.6 million , did the paint the walls in gold 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 wow how to angry millions of VOTERS is one go boris gump must be drunk on drugs or insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 30 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: I'm not sure they did. Oh maybe you should remember the 600 ? nursing staff who died doing their job, all because of the Covid Pandemic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Even at 1% it is still substantially more than anyone else, that is if they still have a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondoggy Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 They also got plenty of perks like shopping priority in supermarkets and home delivery slots, 10% discount (at least from Morrison’s), free AA cover, etc, etc. They seem to have, conveniently, forgotten all of these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Oh maybe you should remember the 600 ? nursing staff who died doing their job, all because of the Covid Pandemic Yes, doing their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Whatever was offered we know the union would have demanded double. I suspect most of us, and that includes pensioners but not union officials, will take a big hit, but I don't see them screaming about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Whatever was offered we know the union would have demanded double. I suspect most of us, and that includes pensioners but not union officials, will take a big hit, but I don't see them screaming about that. The unions are saying they were expecting 12.5%. Ive been busier than ever during this lockdown, hugely increased work, in and out of hospitals, people’s homes, child safeguarding and mental health in the middle of the night. We have been given a 5 year pay freeze in the Council. I’m not that worried I’m in a better position than most just happy to have a half decent paying job. I wouldn’t have minded having the last year sat at home on 80% pay for doing no work but oh well there you go. Our friend who’s a nurse is once again complaining. I’ve told her numerous times to leave but she won’t get paid anywhere near what she’s on anywhere else. All the band 6 nurses I know are kicking up a right stink also, but before this current job when I was in the hospital they didn’t do a lot to justify their £38k a year, trust me anything remotely complex they had to call me in from social services to sort it out for them. There’s no doubt that many NHS workers have stepped up and done a great job during all this, as have the Police, other services and councils. As well as loads of supply chain workers. But the idea that everyone in public services is having a freeze, but nurses should be given special treatment is a bit of a mick take. Apparently nurses are the only ones that kept going to work through lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyshooter Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Nurses are always an emotive issue. When I worked in engineering and we wanted a pay rise above what our employer was offering we were told we could have it, but it would have to be funded by redundancies ! Thats the real world for you ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said: Even at 1% it is still substantially more than anyone else, that is if they still have a job. I'm inclined to agree. The 12 1/2 % 'demanded' by the Unions is completely stupid. With inflation very low, it was never going to be a big figure (the big figures are reserved for greedy MPs). And the MPs awarding themselves a substantial increase and denying it to others does stick in the throat - but I have come to realise that MPs are pretty contemptible people. My own view is that there will be some 'manoeuvring' and end up about 2 - 2 1/2%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: The 12 1/2 % 'demanded' by the Unions is completely stupid. I believe union officials pay way well be pegged ton the nurses pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffgg Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1% I will take that sub contracting rates less now than seven years ago. I set up a limited company to work on a new contract then laid off no pay no gov hand out no work for 6 months. back working now playing catch up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangolin Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 50 minutes ago, moondoggy said: They also got plenty of perks like shopping priority in supermarkets and home delivery slots, 10% discount (at least from Morrison’s), free AA cover, etc, etc. They seem to have, conveniently, forgotten all of these things. Plus job security, plenty of annual leave, good pension....and we all had to stay indoors to ease the pressure on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 I’m embarrassed by the fuss being made. We are paid well these days for what we do. Due to 12hr shifts I get plenty of days off. I can’t change jobs because I’m paid far too well. I was once told that as paramedics we are over paid 98% of the time for the work we do, but for the other 2% we do is impossible to put a price on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 I’m not sure many supermarket workers tended to seriously ill or dying COVID patients with almost no PPE. That comparison is baseless. How many of you “clapped for the NHS” and now begrudge those same nurses a reasonable wage? Unbelievable. I do not know a single nurse that went into nursing for the high pay and easy career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: I’m not sure many supermarket workers tended to seriously ill or dying COVID patients That might have something to do with it not being a part of their job as a supermarket worker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: I’m not sure many supermarket workers tended to seriously ill or dying COVID patients with almost no PPE. That comparison is baseless. How many of you “clapped for the NHS” and now begrudge those same nurses a reasonable wage? Unbelievable. I do not know a single nurse that went into nursing for the high pay and easy career. i’m glad someone is grateful those against it will be quick enough to accept treatment to save their life no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Newbie to this said: That might have something to do with it not being a part of their job as a supermarket worker Your job when working in a supermarket is to stock shelves and serve customers. As I did to pay my way during education as I wasn’t born with a silver spoon. The exposure to COVID is minimal compared to nursing staff. 1 minute ago, clangerman said: i’m glad someone is grateful those against it will be quick enough to accept treatment to save their life no doubt My doctor friends pretty unanimously hated the “clap for the NHS”. They found it embarrassing and the excruciating hypocrisy of those often elderly, often needing care, often conservative voters clapping for them after supporting years of austerity was cringeworthy. Interestingly they are quite well paid so were not fussed over pay, but rather working practices and conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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