Yellow Bear Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Walker570 said: Afraid the horse has bolted AGAIN and the civil servants have again failed to do their job . There, corrected it for you. Anything to discredit the government when it is not left wing enough for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 13 hours ago, ditchman said: interesting VT footage taken by Farage ...showing "migrants " 2 or 3 /boat throwing their phones into the water as they near land/pick up....... Wonder why they'd do such a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 51 minutes ago, Dave-G said: Wonder why they'd do such a thing To hide their country of origin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Weihrauch17 said: To hide their country of origin. I was hoping someone would post the same as I was thinking. It confirms they're lying scumbags concealing where their phones have travelled from, course I'll have to dig out a helmet now cos some wets won't like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Dave-G said: I was hoping someone would post the same as I was thinking. It confirms they're lying scumbags concealing where their phones have travelled from, course I'll have to dig out a helmet now cos some wets won't like that. That's why the Rwanda option is so brilliant. Before, when they arrived with no paperwork they were impossible to ever deport. No proof of where they came from Now they can go th Rwanda and think about their options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Vince Green said: That's why the Rwanda option is so brilliant. Before, when they arrived with no paperwork they were impossible to ever deport. No proof of where they came from Now they can go th Rwanda and think about their options What's the odds on them avoiding the trip with the help of HR campaigners and lawyers, claing gay or a right to family life in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 16 hours ago, Vince Green said: A big part of the problem is (as you say) the Civil Servants not doing their jobs properly. They will give this initiative the silent treatment like they have with every other initiative in the past. Why? Because it involves having to get up off their backside and do something for a change. Sadly, seems the way of things? From limited experience most seem to have accumulated in position for the wrong reasons? Rife nepotism and unthinkingly applied positive discrimination? When the applicants are not picked for best qualification the stage is set for our situation as of today? Destruction from within? Give it 10 years to be a bankrupt third world entity? Tin hat in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 as soon as the migrants are here they will buy a cat............then we will be stuffed...they will have right of abode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 Hello, how many crossed the channel since pretty Patel bleated, It's all under control , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 600 migrants crossed today just thought i would mention this incase everybody thought it had gone away.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, ditchman said: 600 migrants crossed today just thought i would mention this incase everybody thought it had gone away.......... I thought the roads around Kent were a bit busier than normal today !!!??? Seriously though,,,, I'm lost for words regarding this (major) issue !!! 🤨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 Until they are returned to France, they will still keep coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouser Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 What are we paying the French for ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbyduck Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 25 minutes ago, scouser said: What are we paying the French for ?. We are being ruled by weak people that are afraid to stand up for our rights and they are allowing the media and minority groups to call the shots ! there's a lot of people that are making a load money from these migrants coming to the UK ! Hotels , civil rights lawyers , interpreters and charities, oh and lets not forget the people smugglers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, derbyduck said: We are being ruled by weak people that are afraid to stand up for our rights and they are allowing the media and minority groups to call the shots ! there's a lot of people that are making a load money from these migrants coming to the UK ! Hotels , civil rights lawyers , interpreters and charities, oh and lets not forget the people smugglers ! 100 % correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, derbyduck said: We are being ruled by weak people that are afraid to stand up for our rights and they are allowing the media and minority groups to call the shots ! there's a lot of people that are making a load money from these migrants coming to the UK ! Hotels , civil rights lawyers , interpreters and charities, oh and lets not forget the people smugglers ! What rights? Democracy has to ensure that majority rule does not impinge on the fundamental human rights of the minority. You could do away with this of course and as a result abandon democracy. The reaction to Putin's invasion suggests that we don't want that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, oowee said: What rights? Democracy has to ensure that majority rule does not impinge on the fundamental human rights of the minority. You could do away with this of course and as a result abandon democracy. The reaction to Putin's invasion suggests that we don't want that either. A person who comes to this country illegally, knowingly and being fully aware of the implications of their actions shouldn't be able to claim legal rights when they get here You misuse the word democracy. Democracy is about the will of the majority prevailing, to which the minority must comply Edited August 2, 2022 by Vince Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, Vince Green said: A person who comes to this country illegally, knowingly and being fully aware of the implications of their actions shouldn't be able to claim legal rights when they get here You misuse the word democracy. Democracy is about the will of the majority prevailing, to which the minority must comply You misunderstand democracy. Democracy can only exist where the rights of minorities are respected and protected. Our UK democratic process usually results in minority rule. But another critically important challenge is less appreciated or emphasised: that of promoting and developing democratic values and principles within a society. For if it is vital to put the institutional architecture of democracy in place, it is no less so to have a strong foundation of shared and applied democratic values and principles - for without these "bricks and mortar", in the long run the whole construct runs the risk of proving itself a flawed, chronically unstable political edifice. In this context, experience indicates that a defining feature of a functioning democratic ethos is adherence to the theory - and practice - of the fundamental principles of equity, justice and inclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 VG, have a browse around de Tocqueville and the tyranny of the majority. It may give you food for thought (or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted August 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 sorry ...have got my figures wrong..its was ......... 696.......yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, ditchman said: sorry ...have got my figures wrong..its was ......... 696.......yesterday And crossing with guns according to this report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 16 hours ago, ditchman said: 600 migrants crossed today just thought i would mention this incase everybody thought it had gone away.......... Hello, that's not likely to happen , I heard it was 640 🤔🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Pushandpull said: VG, have a browse around de Tocqueville and the tyranny of the majority. It may give you food for thought (or not). To me they are simply criminals engaged in a criminal activity. They deserve no entitlement to be treated any differently to any other law breaker. This country owes them nothing beyond the right to plead their case and get a fair, but brief, hearing. Throwing away their phones and paperwork is an indication of their guilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 I was only offering a little moral philosophy for you to test the assertions you made. I really don't care ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 5 hours ago, oowee said: What rights? Democracy has to ensure that majority rule does not impinge on the fundamental human rights of the minority. You could do away with this of course and as a result abandon democracy. The reaction to Putin's invasion suggests that we don't want that either. I thought BoJo had done that already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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