Allthumbsmo Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Hi folks. My notice for renewal just came through - cert expires in October. I dropped the GP form off only to get a phone call telling me that they didn't do that any more. I double checked and sure enough my GP no longer provides the data to Norfolk constabulary. They just won't. Anyone has this issue and/or know an alternative or way around this? Rgds M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 There are a couple of companies offer a workaround https://www.firearmsmedicals.co.uk/?campaignid=17237414303&adgroupid=140254943447&keyword=medcert&gclid=CjwKCAjw4ayUBhA4EiwATWyBrjg_0ztur5XF0XjB9pifkC6KMhm_dCo134Y0ByS7sPhXdwnQdfohGRoCsJYQAvD_BwE https://www.medcert.co.uk/ https://www.shootcert.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 my GP never wrote a letter to Norfolk Constabulary...all they were required to do was to inform the plod of anything particular medication i had been prescribed...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Bypass your GP and use Medcert. https://www.shootcert.co.uk/?gclid=CjwKCAjw4ayUBhA4EiwATWyBrgoO1c4ZUtHfQeputCsYrOMTvoDjKq9XJWaTvYmb8cuSg_p4gTgxRRoCbBMQAvD_BwE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Your GP might say they won't provide the information, but they don't have a choice. They don't have exemption from the Data Protection Act. Using a firm like Medcert means that they have to provide a Subject Access Request (i.e. provide your medical records) free of charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allthumbsmo Posted May 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Thanks, all. I'll take a look at the Subject Access Request. I'm sure they'll respond to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 It shows that the practice isn’t very switched on. They can either do the admin and take your £50 or do the same for Medicert and earn precisely nothing …..?! I’m sure if this basic business reality was illustrated - they would change their policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Fellside said: It shows that the practice isn’t very switched on. They can either do the admin and take your £50 or do the same for Medicert and earn precisely nothing …..?! I’m sure if this basic business reality was illustrated - they would change their policy. But they may be relatively intelligent GPs with pointless principles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 I pointed this out to my Practice Manager. The logic seemed lost upon him. I got an apology and let it go at that. Three people served Subject Access Requests on the same Practice. Three went missing and were only dealt with when a second was served. I assume the Practice has a serial numpty employed there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 hours ago, ditchman said: my GP never wrote a letter to Norfolk Constabulary...all they were required to do was to inform the plod of anything particular medication i had been prescribed...... Viagra, Valium, Amitriptyline, by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 52 minutes ago, billytheghillie said: Viagra, Valium, Amitriptyline, by any chance? valium was one ....any anti-depressants etc....used to trigger a response from the GP to the constabulary......ive never taken any of those so ive never had a problem.....i have heard that some people on anti-depressants ...that the plod was made aware of triggered a weapons snatch response........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver One Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) If you are a member of BASC I believe they now have a panel of Doctors who will do it for £50. Medcert £60. i didnt know about the BASC panel,so I used Medcert, no issues, fast turn around only slowed down by my Doctors clicking their heels Edited May 23, 2022 by Diver One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted May 25, 2022 Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 On 23/05/2022 at 21:37, Diver One said: If you are a member of BASC I believe they now have a panel of Doctors who will do it for £50. Medcert £60. i didnt know about the BASC panel,so I used Medcert, no issues, fast turn around only slowed down by my Doctors clicking their heels hurrah for basc.its a shame they never stood up for shooters years back when the first force decided to introduce this with no agreement with other bodies that would be involved. this is truly an organisation that is no longer fit for purpose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allthumbsmo Posted May 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2022 On 23/05/2022 at 16:59, ditchman said: my GP never wrote a letter to Norfolk Constabulary...all they were required to do was to inform the plod of anything particular medication i had been prescribed...... I explained this to them. They're just not doing it. On 23/05/2022 at 19:57, TIGHTCHOKE said: But they may be relatively intelligent GPs with pointless principles! It is about principles, apparently. They consider it private work and they don't do private work. Never stopped them when I had renewals in the past. Still, I'm sure I can work around it the way people have recommended. Again, thanks to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 27, 2022 Report Share Posted May 27, 2022 Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted May 27, 2022 Report Share Posted May 27, 2022 As said, a Subject Access Request / Data Subject Access Resquest (SAR / DSAR) is the way to go (both the sane thing btw) Your medical records are your personal information - your GP cannot legally refuse to provide them to either yourself or another party that you designate. If you do have trouble, the Information Commissioners Office (ICO) is who you want to refer them to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moblies Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 I'm dreading my renewal, I was prescribed Amitriptyline one lot of 28 tablets for Nerve pain when i had a shoulder operation, i'm hoping as it was connected to the operation it wont be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Moblies said: I'm dreading my renewal, I was prescribed Amitriptyline one lot of 28 tablets for Nerve pain when i had a shoulder operation, i'm hoping as it was connected to the operation it wont be an issue. It won’t be a problem, believe me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianspire Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Moblies said: I'm dreading my renewal, I was prescribed Amitriptyline one lot of 28 tablets for Nerve pain when i had a shoulder operation, i'm hoping as it was connected to the operation it wont be an issue. I don't think it should be an issue, I've been on them a number of years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymo Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 18 hours ago, Moblies said: I'm dreading my renewal, I was prescribed Amitriptyline one lot of 28 tablets for Nerve pain when i had a shoulder operation, i'm hoping as it was connected to the operation it wont be an issue. It’s the reason and not the medication. Like many other meds, SSRI’s and SNRI’s have multiple uses and neuropathy is one. Everybody seems to assume that as your taking an ‘anti depressant’,that it will cause as problem which simply isn’t the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord O War Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 I was speaking to my FEO and he said that it is the doctors side of things holding everything up. If the Doctors would play ball then we would have 10 year certificates, the police would monitor the criminal side of things and doctors the health side but nooo they wont play ball and everthing grinds to a snails pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 so if all doctors was the same as mine, and filled in my forms in 2 days that would good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, mossy835 said: so if all doctors was the same as mine, and filled in my forms in 2 days that would good. I can beat that, my doctor filled mine in while I was in the surgery and on top of that he only charged me £15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, old'un said: I can beat that, my doctor filled mine in while I was in the surgery and on top of that he only charged me £15 Just making best use of his time... what with having both hands free during your prostate examination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, WalkedUp said: Just making best use of his time... what with having both hands free during your prostate examination. it was a young female doctor, she was checking me for erectile dysfunction, but she said, well that seems to be working just fine. I missed the ‘s’ he on my original post Edited June 3, 2022 by old'un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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